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smallvillefan27  86 posts
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Date Posted: 7/17 12:14pm Subject: Oh Lord
I just read on gamespot its up to Warner if TIV is going to be published or not, Lord help us.

 

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SimulationGeek2 
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Date Posted: 7/18 10:20am Subject: Oh Lord
oh god. pray everybody. when is anything going to be confirmed?

 

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Elven6  720 posts
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Date Posted: 7/18 5:08pm Subject: Oh Lord
That was expected from the start, the same rule applied when Midway was owned by someone else. It depends on a variety of factors, how far is the game in development? How much did it cost? What are market conditions like? Can we easily turn a profit?, etc.

 

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smallvillefan27  86 posts
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Date Posted: 7/18 5:30pm Subject: Oh Lord
i swear, this is why i get pissed when they demo a freakin game that is years from release, i wished they would not even show you anything until about a month before the games comes out, cause all you f-ing do is build hope and crush dreams.

 

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Elven6  720 posts
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Date Posted: 7/19 8:56am Subject: Oh Lord
smallvillefan27 posted:
i swear, this is why i get pissed when they demo a freakin game that is years from release, i wished they would not even show you anything until about a month before the games comes out, cause all you f-ing do is build hope and crush dreams.


Smart move, then no one would know the game even exists! Besides a little something called "Sumner Redstone doing shady things with Mark Thomas" and "bankruptcy" got in the way of things.

 

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smallvillefan27  86 posts
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Date Posted: 7/19 2:16pm Subject: Oh Lord
better than teasing us with something we will never get to play, if we never know about somethin at least we wont miss it. Im not speaking for the company either, im speaking for the people who spend their hard earned money for these games to keep game companies in buisness. You dont do that by biting the hands that feed you.

 

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Outlaw_Wyvern 
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Date Posted: 7/19 6:45pm Subject: Oh Lord
Warner Brothers have been notoriously conservative in the past.
The attitude of this game may ruffle their feathers a bit, but hopefully they'll put it out double quick to recoup some cash.

 

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smallvillefan27  86 posts
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Date Posted: 7/19 7:02pm Subject: Oh Lord
man i would love it if that were true

 

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Elven6  720 posts
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Date Posted: 7/19 7:09pm Subject: Oh Lord
smallvillefan27 posted:
better than teasing us with something we will never get to play, if we never know about somethin at least we wont miss it. Im not speaking for the company either, im speaking for the people who spend their hard earned money for these games to keep game companies in buisness. You dont do that by biting the hands that feed you.


You obviously have no idea how anything in life works, you have to announce games ahead of time if you want people to know about it. You aren't speaking for anyone but yourself, gamers have waited over a decade for games and happily bought them with no complaints. You won't have a hand that feeds if you don't show, demo, etc your game months before release...

 

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smallvillefan27  86 posts
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Date Posted: 7/20 3:38am Subject: Oh Lord
my god Elven 6 are you sleeping with someone from Midway, and for YOUR info i do know how buisness works. Buisnesses think about their bottom line and what the price of their stock is. Do you think anyone cares about who they hurt in the process when somehting like this happens. ME!!!!!!! im speaking for every person who got their feelings hurt, who got excited about this game and might not ever get to play it, which was shoved in their face and teased and then taken away. Who is affraid to stand up and say anything because some loyalist fanboy or what ever the hell your position is will try to crucify them online. I dont know what your freakin problem is, i dont care about the damn companies stock, i care about people like my who play and buy, cause its obvious noone else does, and all you care about is the freakin company.

 

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Elven6  720 posts
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Date Posted: 7/20 9:28am Subject: Oh Lord
smallvillefan27 posted:
my god Elven 6 are you sleeping with someone from Midway, and for YOUR info i do know how buisness works. Buisnesses think about their bottom line and what the price of their stock is. Do you think anyone cares about who they hurt in the process when somehting like this happens. ME!!!!!!! im speaking for every person who got their feelings hurt, who got excited about this game and might not ever get to play it, which was shoved in their face and teased and then taken away. Who is affraid to stand up and say anything because some loyalist fanboy or what ever the hell your position is will try to crucify them online. I dont know what your freakin problem is, i dont care about the damn companies stock, i care about people like my who play and buy, cause its obvious noone else does, and all you care about is the freakin company.


You think the bottom line and price of stock will go anywhere if they take your advice and announce a game a month before release? Anticipation, hype, etc will all work in the favor of a game. Consumers are not getting hurt in the process, they will get hurt if a crappy game is released. From the impressions I read, the demo builds they had up last year left a mediocre taste in peoples mouths, there simply wasn't enough to do in the game. Let them delay it a year and put more stuff into it.

 

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smallvillefan27  86 posts
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Date Posted: 7/20 10:27am Subject: Oh Lord
Elven6 posted:
smallvillefan27 posted:
my god Elven 6 are you sleeping with someone from Midway, and for YOUR info i do know how buisness works. Buisnesses think about their bottom line and what the price of their stock is. Do you think anyone cares about who they hurt in the process when somehting like this happens. ME!!!!!!! im speaking for every person who got their feelings hurt, who got excited about this game and might not ever get to play it, which was shoved in their face and teased and then taken away. Who is affraid to stand up and say anything because some loyalist fanboy or what ever the hell your position is will try to crucify them online. I dont know what your freakin problem is, i dont care about the damn companies stock, i care about people like my who play and buy, cause its obvious noone else does, and all you care about is the freakin company.


You think the bottom line and price of stock will go anywhere if they take your advice and announce a game a month before release? Anticipation, hype, etc will all work in the favor of a game. Consumers are not getting hurt in the process, they will get hurt if a crappy game is released. From the impressions I read, the demo builds they had up last year left a mediocre taste in peoples mouths, there simply wasn't enough to do in the game. Let them delay it a year and put more stuff into it.


so to make sure i understand your logic Elven....you think its grand to tease a child with a sucker and then RIP!!!!!! it away and point and laugh in their face. Yea i can see why you think im the idiot and acutally dont wanna torture my customers like a sadistic nazi.

 

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DragonJack13  1901 posts
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Date Posted: 7/20 11:10am Subject: Oh Lord
Ok I've read the arguments going on above, and have to choose a side.

1. There are many games that have been talked about, hyped, & rumored forever that have never seen the light of day.

2. Unfortunately business is that business. Customers are important, but if the bottom line doesn't come off the bottom, certain things are cut & those that increased the cash flow receive more influence.

3. Like Elven6 said delay it a year to make it better. And if that won't work, cut it loose, dead-weight doesn't make the bottom line increase or make the customers happy.

 

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smallvillefan27  86 posts
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Date Posted: 7/20 11:59am Subject: Oh Lord
i didnt want an economics debate or an argument, i was simply expressing that i was upset cause i got excited about some game that will probably never get to play now and being that is the case i wish i had never known about it in the first place. But that fact i got dissapointed apparently offends everyone, and i have no idea why.

 

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DragonJack13  1901 posts
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Date Posted: 7/20 12:32pm Subject: Oh Lord
smallvillefan27 posted:
i didnt want an economics debate or an argument, i was simply expressing that i was upset cause i got excited about some game that will probably never get to play now and being that is the case i wish i had never known about it in the first place. But that fact i got dissapointed apparently offends everyone, and i have no idea why.


No one is offended by it, its just that your argument doesn't reflect that of a long-time gamer or media buyer. If you know nothing of something, why would you bother buying it? By not advertising, not making demos/vids, you gain no fan-base and have no one to market to or any reason to release the game. Your disappointment is understandable but your reasoning is futile. Think of all the Duke Nukem Forever fans for example: they've been waiting for more than a decade, but they are still hoping for its release, not wishing they'd never heard about it.

 

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smallvillefan27  86 posts
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Date Posted: 7/20 12:39pm Subject: Oh Lord
DragonJack13 posted:
smallvillefan27 posted:
i didnt want an economics debate or an argument, i was simply expressing that i was upset cause i got excited about some game that will probably never get to play now and being that is the case i wish i had never known about it in the first place. But that fact i got dissapointed apparently offends everyone, and i have no idea why.


No one is offended by it, its just that your argument doesn't reflect that of a long-time gamer or media buyer. If you know nothing of something, why would you bother buying it? By not advertising, not making demos/vids, you gain no fan-base and have no one to market to or any reason to release the game. Your disappointment is understandable but your reasoning is futile. Think of all the Duke Nukem Forever fans for example: they've been waiting for more than a decade, but they are still hoping for its release, not wishing they'd never heard about it.


All im saying is that i heard about a sweet game over a year ago that i got really excited about and now will probably never get to play, so all thats in my mind now is what could have been, and that hurts, so I wish i had never heard of it so i cant miss something ive never heard of.

 

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