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GATechGamer Posts: 604 Registered: Apr '08	Date Posted: 9/17/08 2:58am Subject: RE: The Flash isn't fast enough. - Date Edited: 9/17/08 3:06am (1 edits total) Edited By: GATechGamer
	NotNamedJohn posted: Toning down strength while making him faster is not going to work with the laws of physics. As the Flash runs faster and faster, his mass increases exponentially, making most of his punches potentially more powerful than anything Superman could dish out. Here, I'll give a quick summary of why the Flash, if accurate to the comics, would be severely overpowered for this game. In recent years, with the knowledge and mastery of the Speed Force at his disposal, Wally has managed to surpass the speed of light. # Use of his incredibly fast reflexes in order to withstand powerful blows. # Gaining infinite force or weight as he approaches light speed, resulting in extremely heavy blows. # Creating after-images of himself. # Vibrate so that light does not reflect off him sufficiently, rendering him invisible. # "Accelerated Healing" the ability to speed up his natural healing process. There are more powers, such as being able to travel to alternate dimensions or through time, and all of them combined would make him essentially the fighter no one could beat in the game. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wally_West#Powers Well, if we want to get technical, since Wally doesn't run in a vacuum, the friction from the air/ground would rip him apart/burn him alive. I've heard people say that his powers include friction resistance, but that level of resistance would result in incredible levels of invulnerability. Think about it. Wally would be able to survive re-entry into the Earth's atmosphere un-aided. My only point there is that physics is a bit nil. NotNamedJohn posted: @Casanova Nixon: Not in video game logic. We aren't playing as the character 24/7, we're playing as the character for a few minutes a fight. The fights are dispersed, giving time for off-screen nourishment. That is true, though my thought is that a man whose powers are based almost entirely on his speed would still be faster than a normal person even when he's not exerting himself. Would it really be so terrible if he walked faster and his punches and kicks came out faster (again, not obscenely faster) than other characters if his power were scaled back appropriately? Other games do this all the time in a much more dramatic fashion than MK without over-powering the fast characters. Case in point: Check out this vid. There is a lot of normal moving and attacking in that vid. During the segments where Flash is not using one of his special attacks, he's not distinguishably faster than Scorpion. That seems off to me. -----signature----- I implore you, play Braid. Proud to be 99.4% chimp. Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance. --H.L. Mencken DLC Wishlist: Aquaman, Black Adam, Green Arrow, Black Canary, Doomsday, Mister Terrific
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Dasher10 Posts: 452 Registered: Jul '08	Date Posted: 9/17/08 2:10pm Subject: RE: The Flash isn't fast enough.
	If you want everything that The Flash does to be ultra fast, then why not give Superman a Riki-Oh: The Story of Ricky level of strength? For those not in the know: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqYFO467bK4
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dahandsomedevil Posts: 111 Registered: Jul '08	Date Posted: 9/17/08 2:37pm Subject: RE: The Flash isn't fast enough. - Date Edited: 9/17/08 2:38pm (1 edits total) Edited By: dahandsomedevil
	Let's just say this so we can end dis thread once and for all!!!!! ED BOON AND HIS EYEBROWS KNOW BEST!!!!! IF HE THINKS FLASH SHUD BE FASTER HE WILL MAKE HIM FASTER!!!! IF NOT SO BE IT!!!! I still think da flash will be one of da best characters in da game and will be one of my first character choices along wit da joker. They both look awesome 2 fight with!!! and Lex Luthor will be da character i test out all of da fatalities and brutalities on. -----signature----- Captain Marvel turned out much better than i thought he would! "The rage.....THE RAGE!!!!" My new list of fave characters and characters 2 master: 1-The Flash 2-Captain Marvel 3-Johnny Cage (Midway better make him DLC)
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Keltos Posts: 377 Registered: Jul '08	Date Posted: 9/17/08 2:39pm Subject: RE: The Flash isn't fast enough.
	abz1 posted: becasue MK is better than flash. QFBS -----signature----- Keltos plays Captain Marvel & Green Lantern Real comic fans know DC > Marvel
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TEARO Posts: 1,570 Registered: Apr '08	Date Posted: 9/17/08 3:26pm Subject: RE: The Flash isn't fast enough.
	Don't make him faster man..He has few combo punches where his punches get real fast that's good enough for me.
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Madcap Posts: 936 Registered: Apr '08	Date Posted: 9/17/08 3:28pm Subject: RE: The Flash isn't fast enough.
	TotalMortalKombat posted: And on top of that Flash only uses his super speed for short periods of time, think back to JL and other stuff he isn't constantly using his super speed then he couldn't talk to people ect... Technically, he's not kept to short bursts. His reflexes and such are all at high levels, but in some cases it's shown that he purposely keeps his perception sped up at times so he can function in a more normal pace. NotNamedJohn posted: Toning down strength while making him faster is not going to work with the laws of physics. Laws of physics rarely, if ever, had function in a fighting game. Speed and strength are usually just means of a balancing scale, with F=ma going out the window.
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Kaine Posts: 376 Registered: Aug '08	Date Posted: 9/17/08 4:33pm Subject: RE: The Flash isn't fast enough.
	Consider this, they are fighting in very close quarters for most of the time, speed is great when you want to get someone but fighting someone that close up could be easier done without superspeed explaining a reason why only his special moves involve greater speed Also if they are going back to traditional MK gameplay that would mean closer to a system where there wasn't great difference between the abilities of the fighters in normal moves -----signature----- http://forums.midway.com/mortal_kombat_vs_dc_universe/b10806/29626887/p1/?6 go to the above link to see my alternate costume idea Post in the thread if you like it and see how many pages the thread can build up
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mkvsdc08 Posts: 1,006 Registered: Aug '08	Date Posted: 9/17/08 4:45pm Subject: RE: The Flash isn't fast enough.
	Please stop bumping this -----signature----- Blood, Sweat and Spears McCain and MK in 2008 bay bay Harley Quinn, Bo Rai Cho, Aquaman and Frost for DLC
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GATechGamer Posts: 604 Registered: Apr '08	Date Posted: 9/17/08 6:21pm Subject: RE: The Flash isn't fast enough.
	Dasher10 posted: If you want everything that The Flash does to be ultra fast, then why not give Superman a Riki-Oh: The Story of Ricky level of strength? For those not in the know: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqYFO467bK4 Bwahaha! Riki-Oh reference FTW! Kaine posted: Consider this, they are fighting in very close quarters for most of the time, speed is great when you want to get someone but fighting someone that close up could be easier done without superspeed explaining a reason why only his special moves involve greater speed Also if they are going back to traditional MK gameplay that would mean closer to a system where there wasn't great difference between the abilities of the fighters in normal moves Sorry, but that's not really true at all. Consider this:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPT6E_ouBnM -----signature----- I implore you, play Braid. Proud to be 99.4% chimp. Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance. --H.L. Mencken DLC Wishlist: Aquaman, Black Adam, Green Arrow, Black Canary, Doomsday, Mister Terrific
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