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fijikungfu
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Max1295 posted:
Major_kenny posted:
what's the deal with the caps?
YEAH...I LIKE CAPS!!!!!!
YAYYY!!!!!!!!!!!
yeah I like Caps too... but not in a forum... it scorches my eyes...
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Sometimes you gotta take risks.........
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kevin187
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Boon has said time and time again the game will contain No New Characters from either side. Iconic. That translates into no KaF
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kevin187 posted:
Boon has said time and time again the game will contain No New Characters from either side. Iconic. That translates into no KaF
I don't think that "No new fighters" translates into "No KAF", but I do agree that KAF will probably not be in.
Then again, if it is as crappy as the MKA-one, then i would rather have no KAF-feature.
To the topic creator:
I take it that little pointless things like
1: a finished game with no messy, loose ends and glitches
2: a solid, good fighting-engine
3: balanced gameplay/roster
4: solid graphics
means nothing, when selecting what game to buy?
This is the first MK-game on next-gen, so I'd really prefer that they focus on those 4 mentioned points, rather than bonus features like KAF. (I really like KAF-features in most game, but as I already wrote: "if it is as crappy as the MKA-one, then i would rather have no KAF-feature"
IIRC, online-mode IS confirmed.
Demanding a massive amount of characters in a game, made from scratch, will 99% of the time result in an unbalanced/repetitive roster/gameplay/fighting-style AKA crap.
This is why i find your demandings/post either naive, pointless or... not smart (to say it in a nice way).
This is all just my oppinion, so feel free to disagree.
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AboveLORDGOD
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Maybe so... but as a guy in the software business, I've come to know a cardinal rule... never cross your customers expectations.
After paying for Midway's package of blood, violence, and gore (Fatalities!) for 15 years, I and most other Midway customers will expect it. Each game they added more content and more ways to bloody more people. That's what made Midway famous in the first place! That's what Midway's CUSTOMERS looked for in each new MK! That's what we were paying $ for! Bloody, mindless, over-the-top violence. If we wanted to see Batman bloodlessy punchout, but not kill nerds (e.g., Riddler, Scarecrow, Penguin)... we could have bought 1 of the 20-40 Batman's flops. If we wanted to see Superman display his morals by pummeling equipment instead of people... we could have bought one ot the 10-20 Superman's fly-around-forever-and-look-for-enemies flops. Over-the-top violence is what is paid for... Not guys in tights who will fight, but only with principles and morals.  That has been, is, and always will be SO LAME! That kinda crap belongs in the Comics where fanboys can appreciate it. It's plain and simple. This game won't sell if Midway ditches it's core product (bloody M-rated violence), past innovation (KAF), and progress in order to accomadate DC's 'Thou shalt not kill' morals because those are morals that all past MK players obviously don't share (if they've ever done a fatality). I predict bad reviews, poor sales, and one more flop with the DC name attached. I also predict that fanboys will be strambling online for hours before they find someone else to play. If this stuff about T-rated is true, this is not taking a risk... this is commiting trademark suicide... all for DC's !
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Dinobot
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All Good things must come to an end....Isn't that a pity.....MK vs DC Will be good In My opinion but it's not going to affect my life....
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AboveLORDGOD posted:
Maybe so... but as a guy in the software business, I've come to know a cardinal rule... never cross your customers expectations.
After paying for Midway's package of blood, violence, and gore (Fatalities!) for 15 years, I and most other Midway customers will expect it. Each game they added more content and more ways to bloody more people. That's what made Midway famous in the first place! That's what Midway's CUSTOMERS looked for in each new MK! That's what we were paying $ for! Bloody, mindless, over-the-top violence. If we wanted to see Batman bloodlessy punchout, but not kill nerds (e.g., Riddler, Scarecrow, Penguin)... we could have bought 1 of the 20-40 Batman's flops. If we wanted to see Superman display his morals by pummeling equipment instead of people... we could have bought one ot the 10-20 Superman's fly-around-forever-and-look-for-enemies flops. Over-the-top violence is what is paid for... Not guys in tights who will fight, but only with principles and morals. That has been, is, and always will be SO LAME! That kinda crap belongs in the Comics where fanboys can appreciate it. It's plain and simple. This game won't sell if Midway ditches it's core product (bloody M-rated violence), past innovation (KAF), and progress in order to accomadate DC's 'Thou shalt not kill' morals because those are morals that all past MK players obviously don't share (if they've ever done a fatality). I predict bad reviews, poor sales, and one more flop with the DC name attached. I also predict that fanboys will be strambling online for hours before they find someone else to play. If this stuff about T-rated is true, this is not taking a risk... this is commiting trademark suicide... all for DC's !
Are u that serious? Like seriously this is just a game.. its doesn't make ur life.. we dnt care if u are gonna dislike it... how do u even know its gonna be bad if its not even out yet!!???? I even bet ur gonna play it when it comes out.. If u were a true MK fan u would love this game commin out.. yes everyone has to take risks like Midway just took one on makin this game... some people don't like it and obviously others love it! I dnt see why ur makin a big deal out of this anyways.. we dnt need any more MK haters around. haha this isn't even an official MK (alone) game ... its just a new type of game midway just thought they should make... it has nothin to do with the regular MK storyline and such and possibly won't have to do with MK8. Possibly they wouldn't even include some new characters cuz they would be savin the new characters foro MK8. Like i think they are just gonna be usin the old characters from past MKs... and possibly this will give us a hint to who will be in MK8.. who knows...
Like even so .. this is a big change in MK history[[lol sounds a bit weird]] cuz its like.. ed boon said.. they are changin everything bout MK.. so like i am thinkin scorpions spear move will be different in a way.. but still have that unique thing 2 it... wantin u to do that move some more.. this game isn't gonna be anythin like MK:Armageddon so we know it isn't gonna be as "suckish" as mka.... its a whole new concept and fightin engine used also ! So why not even want to experience the new?
LOL i typed a lot.. well it think i have said enough.. plz everyone.. just be out in the open with ur thoughts and let this guy know what kind of a person he is being..[[ but just dnt use strong lang. lol cuz it will probably be deleted] =]
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BobDope posted:
kevin187 posted:
Boon has said time and time again the game will contain No New Characters from either side. Iconic. That translates into no KaF
I don't think that "No new fighters" translates into "No KAF", but I do agree that KAF will probably not be in.
Then again, if it is as crappy as the MKA-one, then i would rather have no KAF-feature.
To the topic creator:
I take it that little pointless things like
1: a finished game with no messy, loose ends and glitches
2: a solid, good fighting-engine
3: balanced gameplay/roster
4: solid graphics
means nothing, when selecting what game to buy?
This is the first MK-game on next-gen, so I'd really prefer that they focus on those 4 mentioned points, rather than bonus features like KAF. (I really like KAF-features in most game, but as I already wrote: "if it is as crappy as the MKA-one, then i would rather have no KAF-feature"
IIRC, online-mode IS confirmed.
Demanding a massive amount of characters in a game, made from scratch, will 99% of the time result in an unbalanced/repetitive roster/gameplay/fighting-style AKA crap.
This is why i find your demandings/post either naive, pointless or... not smart (to say it in a nice way).
This is all just my oppinion, so feel free to disagree.
I like the way you think! 
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BobDope posted:
kevin187 posted:
Boon has said time and time again the game will contain No New Characters from either side. Iconic. That translates into no KaF
I don't think that "No new fighters" translates into "No KAF", but I do agree that KAF will probably not be in.
Then again, if it is as crappy as the MKA-one, then i would rather have no KAF-feature.
To the topic creator:
I take it that little pointless things like
1: a finished game with no messy, loose ends and glitches
2: a solid, good fighting-engine
3: balanced gameplay/roster
4: solid graphics
means nothing, when selecting what game to buy?
This is the first MK-game on next-gen, so I'd really prefer that they focus on those 4 mentioned points, rather than bonus features like KAF. (I really like KAF-features in most game, but as I already wrote: "if it is as crappy as the MKA-one, then i would rather have no KAF-feature"
IIRC, online-mode IS confirmed.
Demanding a massive amount of characters in a game, made from scratch, will 99% of the time result in an unbalanced/repetitive roster/gameplay/fighting-style AKA crap.
This is why i find your demandings/post either naive, pointless or... not smart (to say it in a nice way).
This is all just my oppinion, so feel free to disagree.
All customer expects the software he purchases to meet your list 1-4. We call it "polished". That is standard for all commercial software. I don't know anyone that looks to buy software that isn't polished. If you find yourself asking those types of questions while you are standing in EB or Gamestop and trying to decide to buy a game... maybe it's time to up your standards and only buy from credible developers/publishers. Those conditions should be met for any commercial software. No Offense meant.
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yea this AboveLORDGOD guy is takin everything way to seriously and makin it a bigger deal than it is.... games are games.. and are made to enjoy... and such... so no need to get all serious with them AboveLG!
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sub-zero12 posted:
yea this AboveLORDGOD guy is takin everything way to seriously and makin it a bigger deal than it is.... games are games.. and are made to enjoy... and such... so no need to get all serious with them AboveLG!
Agreed....It's just a game, it shouldn't interfer with anyones life.....
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AboveLORDGOD posted:
1) Is Kreate a Fighter in this new game?
2) Is it Online?
3) Will they have more than 20 0r 22 characters?
If not I won't buy it or even try it! Midway has spent decades building up a product that we as customer want. They have already dumped most of the stuff that customers specifically bought an MK game for, over the top violence.
I doubt it will even make it through production. Midway is taking too huge of a risk with its customer base to make pansy games. EVERY DC-based game to date has sucked! EVERY SINGLE ONE!
I'm not happy with this game idea either for some reasons of my own, so I've just accepted the fact that it's coming whether I like it or not. However, I'll say this. I'm not buying it when it hits store shelves. If you don't like this idea, then speak with your wallet when it comes out. I'll wait for a real sequel, not one that pairs two good franchises up that do not belong together in the same game due to several serious incompatibility factors.
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"I'd rather give birth to a chair..."
That's crazy funny!
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AboveLORDGOD posted:
"I'd rather give birth to a chair..."
That's crazy funny!
Glad you like it. I originally had it posted as my sig when MK/DC was merely a rumor. Figured I'd bring it back now that it's reality. 
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AboveLORDGOD posted:
BobDope posted:
kevin187 posted:
Boon has said time and time again the game will contain No New Characters from either side. Iconic. That translates into no KaF
I don't think that "No new fighters" translates into "No KAF", but I do agree that KAF will probably not be in.
Then again, if it is as crappy as the MKA-one, then i would rather have no KAF-feature.
To the topic creator:
I take it that little pointless things like
1: a finished game with no messy, loose ends and glitches
2: a solid, good fighting-engine
3: balanced gameplay/roster
4: solid graphics
means nothing, when selecting what game to buy?
This is the first MK-game on next-gen, so I'd really prefer that they focus on those 4 mentioned points, rather than bonus features like KAF. (I really like KAF-features in most game, but as I already wrote: "if it is as crappy as the MKA-one, then i would rather have no KAF-feature"
IIRC, online-mode IS confirmed.
Demanding a massive amount of characters in a game, made from scratch, will 99% of the time result in an unbalanced/repetitive roster/gameplay/fighting-style AKA crap.
This is why i find your demandings/post either naive, pointless or... not smart (to say it in a nice way).
This is all just my oppinion, so feel free to disagree.
All customer expects the software he purchases to meet your list 1-4. We call it "polished". That is standard for all commercial software. I don't know anyone that looks to buy software that isn't polished. If you find yourself asking those types of questions while you are standing in EB or Gamestop and trying to decide to buy a game... maybe it's time to up your standards and only buy from credible developers/publishers. Those conditions should be met for any commercial software. No Offense meant.
This is MK, we are talking about. Did you try MKA? I did, and I dont think it lived up to ANY of the 4 points.
I DO agree that "Those conditions should be met for any commercial software", but sadly, they're not met by much commercial software.
You seem to know a list of "credible developers/publishers" , who meets ALL the conditions with ALL their games... I'd really like to know who they are...
..and no offence meant here, either.
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