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c0nd0rd4myt
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if your allways looking behind you, your gonna get hit by something in front.
translation: get out of the past. if we had only stuck to what the original game did, we would be in a really pathetic state, moreso than what you think this game is gonna do.
a T rating could destroy this game, I'll admit that. if they had finishers, but still kept a light M rating, i wonder how much bitching there would be.
theres a question you need to ask yourself. If they took out fatalities (the HYPER-violent, OVERLY bloody) finishers, and instead put more realistic, more believable albeit brutal finsihers, while still keeping M, would you have a problem with the game?
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Tiberius posted:
The_Lizard posted:
Just a thought I had while reading this. Since this is a comics crossover.... have you seen the stuff that can and does happen to people in a comic and notkill them? I think finishers have plenty of potential.
What do you mean?
I talking about ways characters in comics get "finished" in brutal ways, but dont die.
Bane breaking Batmans spine.
Magneto ripping out Wolverines adamantium.
Jokers flower melting someones face off.
Any number of the beatings Wolverine and Sabertooth put on each other.
Bullseye stabbing Jack Flag in the spine.
All brutal "finishers" that didnt have to be fatal. Things like this could be great. Granted they could still turn out to be "auto combos" that just knock you down too..... that would blow.
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[quote=lastfighter89]you two guys are killing mk,and that idiot of Ed Boon is following your directions instead of the right direction,alias the way of the old time fanboys that play the game since mk in 1992 and made Midway and Ed boon wealthy.
Mk is famous"famous-famous-famous" popular"popular-popular-popular" for his violence,his comic relief and is joke-gore/splatter finishing moves with "stupid and funny" decapitations,explosions and mutilations.
this elements are the fortune of MK,if you took this awat Mk is fucked hard.
so i don't see why we should have finishing moves..OMG this is MK not Marvel Nemesis or Def Jam icon.
if you want realistical finishing moves play that games,if you want gory fatalities(even tough not realistical) stay with MK.
however just to make things clear..MK does not need childish player that follows the saga from deception or so on.
Midway needs money and for make money(GTA teaches) you have to make scandal,controversial ads and so on.
limiting the violence is the first step to destroy MK
Get over the past...MKTrilogy was a long time ago, things have changed and whining about it isn't fixing it. You can still play MK2 and 3. MK will be fine, and said before - Fatalities are really getting old. We find ourselves not doing them anymore after a month and perform a quick hit to move on to the next match. In 3D, we can't have cool short fatalities like Baraka's Head Chop from MK2 or people would complain about how it's in 3D and they can make it longer and more brutal. Those short Fatalities happen to be the best. I mean, come on - In Deception Scorpion has Subbies Spine Rip...That sucks. There is nothing wrong with finishing moves. What we need is good gameplay with a great kombo system and juggling. Our skill isn't measured in the Fatalities or the rating...it's ALL the match. Like I've said before, stripping fatalities is better than keeping the Kreate-A-Fatality anyway...I'm glad we'll have individual finishers.
repeat if you don't like fatalities just play something else
I love Fatalities, but reality is they aren't essential and get old after 3 views. The only difference between Fatalities and Finishers are death. Just like Ring Outs & Death Traps.
Repeat; Get out of the past, they are GONE.[/quote]
but why get rid of the past????
look at DoA 4 is the best fighint game,does it changed something from the original formula?No,absolutely not they improved graphics,sounds the spectrum of moves..but the whole concept remain the same troughout the years.
look at Virtua Fighter 5...better graphic,better gameplay,but same forumla as the first games.
Tekken,tried to change a bit forumla with Tekken 4(and it was a failure),but with Tekken 5 they return to make tekken 1,2,3 clones
Look at street fighter...they tried to change the forumla in any way(they created the alpha sub zeries,the make the 3D games with the sub series EX,etc) and it haven0t such a big success.
now Capcom come back to the roots with Street Fighter 4 which is a SF2 with better graphics and new characters.
now i ask WHY we should get rid of the past,when in terms of commercial sellings the past is much more wealthier than DC heroes?
The New MK game needs to be like MK4/SF4:better graphics,with a large and different move list,without standards animations(like MK4 did) but more personification and characteritation of characters.
They should not take out the gore and violence elements which gave'em a lot of money.
do you know what game was the last true "succes" fro MK?
it was haolin Monks with over a million of units slled out worldwide.
and Salin Monks is ultra gore,and plus managed to capture the spirit of the old games with new graphic(which wasn't spectacular as God of War,but wasn't that bad).
so please stop asking to refrwsh the saga because the same old ideas are very good,and unluckly very undeveloped.
yes they need to change fatalities,because we're sick and tired of the same heart rip or decaptitaion.
buyt please,we have new gen graphics...try to image a enemy without skin,buring alive,etc...this sadistic way to kill you opponent would be great with current tecnologies and ttally transofrm the old fatalities.
the finishing moves aren't "Mortal" but just Kombat.
you're killing MK and Midway with this stupid idea.
the past si the TRUE glory of MK,as well as any other game history.
and example?
Resident Evil 4.
It was a escellent action games for new faboys but was a total let down to the old faboys.
Resident Evil 4 selled well 'cause Capcom is much more richer than midway and develpoed the game using more time and a larger staff.
Midway have a little team with few programmers,low financial possiblities and very quick expiries.
so please stop reaming and stop believing that Batman or Super Man will save MK,this is just ridicoulus.
i hope to be clear
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I like the DC world, but it's not a match for MK. Not only that, but it won't help the current problems of the series either.
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I like the DC world, but it's not a match for MK. Not only that, but it won't help the current problems of the series either.
i hate to say it but reading u repeat this is getting boring and tiring
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Every game is going to have its share of critics. MKA had quite a few too as I'm sure MKD and every other MK game before that had. I'm not trying to be repetitive here, just mentioning my objections when the chance presents itself.
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iceberg posted:
Tiberius posted:
I like the DC world, but it's not a match for MK. Not only that, but it won't help the current problems of the series either.
i hate to say it but reading u repeat this is getting boring and tiring
If Tiberius wants to post "I hate the idea of MKvsDC" in one million ways on topics thats Tiberius' choice. Not yours. U have done pretty much done nothing but flood the boards lately complaining about people's topics & with off-topic one liners like above. You iceberg are one of the most off-topic posters here, so quit flaming people because u don't like something.
Now, on topic, Finishers & Fatalities have their own best qualities, but as far as MKvsDC, though I'd like to rip out superman's spine, I'll settle for a KO hit. I think the complaining about no fatalites hasn't been thought through; think about it; if finishers are used, it should involve less programming, and allow Boon & company to get back to the Dark & Gritty follow-up to MKA sooner.
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DragonJack13 posted:
iceberg posted:
Tiberius posted:
I like the DC world, but it's not a match for MK. Not only that, but it won't help the current problems of the series either.
i hate to say it but reading u repeat this is getting boring and tiring
If Tiberius wants to post "I hate the idea of MKvsDC" in one million ways on topics thats Tiberius' choice. Not yours. U have done pretty much done nothing but flood the boards lately complaining about people's topics & with off-topic one liners like above. You iceberg are one of the most off-topic posters here, so quit flaming people because u don't like something.
Now, on topic, Finishers & Fatalities have their own best qualities, but as far as MKvsDC, though I'd like to rip out superman's spine, I'll settle for a KO hit. I think the complaining about no fatalites hasn't been thought through; think about it; if finishers are used, it should involve less programming, and allow Boon & company to get back to the Dark & Gritty follow-up to MKA sooner.
i complain about the frequency of REPEAT TOPICS. and dont u think that MOST posts go off topic just read half the posts here in the boards
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iceberg posted:
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[quote=Tiberius]I like the DC world, but it's not a match for MK. Not only that, but it won't help the current problems of the series either.
i hate to say it but reading u repeat this is getting boring and tiring
If Tiberius wants to post "I hate the idea of MKvsDC" in one million ways on topics thats Tiberius' choice. Not yours. U have done pretty much done nothing but flood the boards lately complaining about people's topics & with off-topic one liners like above. You iceberg are one of the most off-topic posters here, so quit flaming people because u don't like something.
Now, on topic, Finishers & Fatalities have their own best qualities, but as far as MKvsDC, though I'd like to rip out superman's spine, I'll settle for a KO hit. I think the complaining about no fatalites hasn't been thought through; think about it; if finishers are used, it should involve less programming, and allow Boon & company to get back to the Dark & Gritty follow-up to MKA sooner.
i complain about the frequency of REPEAT TOPICS. and dont u think that MOST posts go off topic just read half the posts here in the boards[/quote]
Yet you continue to do the things u preach about. Funny isn't it?
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DragonJack13 posted:
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[quote=iceberg][quote=Tiberius]I like the DC world, but it's not a match for MK. Not only that, but it won't help the current problems of the series either.
i hate to say it but reading u repeat this is getting boring and tiring
If Tiberius wants to post "I hate the idea of MKvsDC" in one million ways on topics thats Tiberius' choice. Not yours. U have done pretty much done nothing but flood the boards lately complaining about people's topics & with off-topic one liners like above. You iceberg are one of the most off-topic posters here, so quit flaming people because u don't like something.
Now, on topic, Finishers & Fatalities have their own best qualities, but as far as MKvsDC, though I'd like to rip out superman's spine, I'll settle for a KO hit. I think the complaining about no fatalites hasn't been thought through; think about it; if finishers are used, it should involve less programming, and allow Boon & company to get back to the Dark & Gritty follow-up to MKA sooner.
i complain about the frequency of REPEAT TOPICS. and dont u think that MOST posts go off topic just read half the posts here in the boards[/quote]
Yet you continue to do the things u preach about. Funny isn't it?[/quote]when have i ever made a repeat topic?????
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The bottom line is this. There's going to be plenty of posts for MK/DC and plenty of posts against MK/DC. I really don't see a problem with that in either regard, mainly because there were divided lines on previous MK titles like MKA for example.
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Tiberius posted:
The bottom line is this. There's going to be plenty of posts for MK/DC and plenty of posts against MK/DC. I really don't see a problem with that in either regard, mainly because there were divided lines on previous MK titles like MKA for example.
lol i was being sarcastic in what i said about u lol thats y i said boring lol
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[quote=DragonJack13][quote=iceberg][quote=Tiberius]I like the DC world, but it's not a match for MK. Not only that, but it won't help the current problems of the series either.
i hate to say it but reading u repeat this is getting boring and tiring
If Tiberius wants to post "I hate the idea of MKvsDC" in one million ways on topics thats Tiberius' choice. Not yours. U have done pretty much done nothing but flood the boards lately complaining about people's topics & with off-topic one liners like above. You iceberg are one of the most off-topic posters here, so quit flaming people because u don't like something.
Now, on topic, Finishers & Fatalities have their own best qualities, but as far as MKvsDC, though I'd like to rip out superman's spine, I'll settle for a KO hit. I think the complaining about no fatalites hasn't been thought through; think about it; if finishers are used, it should involve less programming, and allow Boon & company to get back to the Dark & Gritty follow-up to MKA sooner.
i complain about the frequency of REPEAT TOPICS. and dont u think that MOST posts go off topic just read half the posts here in the boards[/quote]
Yet you continue to do the things u preach about. Funny isn't it?[/quote]when have i ever made a repeat topic?????[/quote]
Maybe not directly, but by bumping repeat topics, with "check the boards, this has been done already" You fuel that topic & it does not fall off. Sort of like your complaining in the worldscollide topic with a new member, by arguing his topic is off-topic, when only your posts are off-topic, cause his topic was a comparison of sounds from a movie to MK's worldscollide site. & on that, Mods don't have time to go through & lock or delete repeat topics, besides there is no rule against repeats, they are just frowned upon.
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Tiberius posted:
The bottom line is this. There's going to be plenty of posts for MK/DC and plenty of posts against MK/DC. I really don't see a problem with that in either regard, mainly because there were divided lines on previous MK titles like MKA for example.
lol i was being sarcastic in what i said about u lol thats y i said boring lol
Trying to inject some humor into this I see. Nothing wrong with that.  At the same time though, I can see why some might find my answers repetitve. After all, I'm one of the few posters still here that continues to say no to the MK/DC idea. For now anyway.
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