---Scorpion--- posted:BetaRay posted:---Scorpion--- posted:[quote=Bassua255][quote=---Scorpion---][quote=Bassua255][quote=---Scorpion---][quote=Bassua255][quote=---Scorpion---][quote=Bassua255]If Shao Kahn can kill Onaga, Superman can. Raiden can be beaten by him too, if not, Raiden would've easily defeated Shang Tsung, Shao Kahn, Shinnok (2nd Run) and the Deadly Alliance by himself. Superman is unfair and will defeat anyone. Were not sure who beat onaga, shao kahn may not have at all, and Raiden relinquished his statis to fight meaning he didn't have full power. so your wrong Keep trying buddy, Raiden got the power he relinquished after MK4 and he relinquished it in the events of MK5(DA) so...he never got to use this power and it is long gone. Remember the Dragon King was REVIVED from his death at the hands of Shao Kahn. We KNOW Shao Kahn killed Onaga in the past. Read Kahns Bio and Ending in Deception. Raiden cannot switch between God and Elder. He is a simple god now. Hell, he always was. Onaga's MKA Bio also states that Shujinko defeated him, we don't fully know if it is canon, but that says it is possible for him to be defeated by Shujinko at the least. What do you know about Raiden? He was a God in MK1-4 and Liu Kang prevailed, not him. His effort got him "promoted" to Elder God at the end of MK4. In MK5 he relinquished this Elder God Status in order to fight because his "Champion" died. He lost. He killed himself and Onaga survived his "Full-Power" explosion holding the Amulet, only to have Onaga defeated anyway. Raiden then became corrupt and then used his Champion's body to protect him as a bodyguard because he knew Liu could do it. Ouch.
BetaRay posted:---Scorpion--- posted:[quote=Bassua255][quote=---Scorpion---][quote=Bassua255][quote=---Scorpion---][quote=Bassua255][quote=---Scorpion---][quote=Bassua255]If Shao Kahn can kill Onaga, Superman can. Raiden can be beaten by him too, if not, Raiden would've easily defeated Shang Tsung, Shao Kahn, Shinnok (2nd Run) and the Deadly Alliance by himself. Superman is unfair and will defeat anyone. Were not sure who beat onaga, shao kahn may not have at all, and Raiden relinquished his statis to fight meaning he didn't have full power. so your wrong
---Scorpion--- posted:[quote=Bassua255][quote=---Scorpion---][quote=Bassua255][quote=---Scorpion---][quote=Bassua255][quote=---Scorpion---][quote=Bassua255]If Shao Kahn can kill Onaga, Superman can. Raiden can be beaten by him too, if not, Raiden would've easily defeated Shang Tsung, Shao Kahn, Shinnok (2nd Run) and the Deadly Alliance by himself. Superman is unfair and will defeat anyone.
---Scorpion--- posted:Bluntly becasue DC's too lame! with the exceptions, Batman, and some JLA teh rest, completly usless, not interesting and the same power mimiced through every charcter!!
BetaRay posted:---Scorpion--- posted:BetaRay posted:[quote=---Scorpion---][quote=Bassua255][quote=---Scorpion---][quote=Bassua255][quote=---Scorpion---][quote=Bassua255][quote=---Scorpion---][quote=Bassua255]If Shao Kahn can kill Onaga, Superman can. Raiden can be beaten by him too, if not, Raiden would've easily defeated Shang Tsung, Shao Kahn, Shinnok (2nd Run) and the Deadly Alliance by himself. Superman is unfair and will defeat anyone. Were not sure who beat onaga, shao kahn may not have at all, and Raiden relinquished his statis to fight meaning he didn't have full power. so your wrong Keep trying buddy, Raiden got the power he relinquished after MK4 and he relinquished it in the events of MK5(DA) so...he never got to use this power and it is long gone. Remember the Dragon King was REVIVED from his death at the hands of Shao Kahn. We KNOW Shao Kahn killed Onaga in the past. Read Kahns Bio and Ending in Deception. Raiden cannot switch between God and Elder. He is a simple god now. Hell, he always was. Onaga's MKA Bio also states that Shujinko defeated him, we don't fully know if it is canon, but that says it is possible for him to be defeated by Shujinko at the least. What do you know about Raiden? He was a God in MK1-4 and Liu Kang prevailed, not him. His effort got him "promoted" to Elder God at the end of MK4. In MK5 he relinquished this Elder God Status in order to fight because his "Champion" died. He lost. He killed himself and Onaga survived his "Full-Power" explosion holding the Amulet, only to have Onaga defeated anyway. Raiden then became corrupt and then used his Champion's body to protect him as a bodyguard because he knew Liu could do it. Ouch.
---Scorpion--- posted:BetaRay posted:[quote=---Scorpion---][quote=Bassua255][quote=---Scorpion---][quote=Bassua255][quote=---Scorpion---][quote=Bassua255][quote=---Scorpion---][quote=Bassua255]If Shao Kahn can kill Onaga, Superman can. Raiden can be beaten by him too, if not, Raiden would've easily defeated Shang Tsung, Shao Kahn, Shinnok (2nd Run) and the Deadly Alliance by himself. Superman is unfair and will defeat anyone. Were not sure who beat onaga, shao kahn may not have at all, and Raiden relinquished his statis to fight meaning he didn't have full power. so your wrong
BetaRay posted:[quote=---Scorpion---][quote=Bassua255][quote=---Scorpion---][quote=Bassua255][quote=---Scorpion---][quote=Bassua255][quote=---Scorpion---][quote=Bassua255]If Shao Kahn can kill Onaga, Superman can. Raiden can be beaten by him too, if not, Raiden would've easily defeated Shang Tsung, Shao Kahn, Shinnok (2nd Run) and the Deadly Alliance by himself. Superman is unfair and will defeat anyone.
CrimsonAvenger posted:---Scorpion--- posted:Bluntly becasue DC's too lame! with the exceptions, Batman, and some JLA teh rest, completly usless, not interesting and the same power mimiced through every charcter!! So what power are you referring to? Because as I recall Marvel has it's own common themes.
Batzarro posted:But Doomsday would have been owned by Aquaman. Nuff said.
---Scorpion--- posted: Dude, DC's too flashy and act like their all powerful. Superman's powers are alot like magneto's. magneto is only powerful because he lives in a world full of steel, how convient that his power is to control metal! Superman gets most his power from a yellow sun, well how convient, theres a yellow sun on earth, the nethrrealm doesn't have one, and the MK universe is filled with dark magic, Superman isn't all powerful in MK and if he fought Scorpion in hell Superman would die. I think Raiden can beat him as he is now. and i know im not the only one who thinks that. So superman is only all powerful becasue he always has the odds on his side, and hes redicilous like most DC characters. all prety much the smae to me, with a few exceptions. lame, simply lame
---Scorpion--- posted:CrimsonAvenger posted:---Scorpion--- posted:Bluntly becasue DC's too lame! with the exceptions, Batman, and some JLA teh rest, completly usless, not interesting and the same power mimiced through every charcter!! So what power are you referring to? Because as I recall Marvel has it's own common themes. everyone in DC has superthis and superthat. Granted that MK has a common theme, everyones the best fighter around or in their own realm and whatnot. DC just is boring to me, its like a kid said "HEY!! lets make everyone with super speed and strengh, and then we'll give them weird powers and powerups way too much!" Batman, Doomsday, and Darkseid are the only good DC characters in mk opinion. ohh and my fav. Bane.
Madcap posted:I don't understand why you'd say Magneto and Superman are alike in power, and you fail to mention how Magneto's been displayed abilities that go far beyond manipulating metal over the years. You've made the same complaint before, though I don't recall you ever responding to my arguments that every comic publisher shames the same level of silly concepts. It seems like you're turning a blind eye to your favored company while you bash the other for having the exact same things. I'd have more to post, but so far you're sticking with the most basic generalizations rather than giving a detailed, well thought response.
BetaRay posted:---Scorpion--- posted: Dude, DC's too flashy and act like their all powerful. Superman's powers are alot like magneto's. magneto is only powerful because he lives in a world full of steel, how convient that his power is to control metal! Superman gets most his power from a yellow sun, well how convient, theres a yellow sun on earth, the nethrrealm doesn't have one, and the MK universe is filled with dark magic, Superman isn't all powerful in MK and if he fought Scorpion in hell Superman would die. I think Raiden can beat him as he is now. and i know im not the only one who thinks that. So superman is only all powerful becasue he always has the odds on his side, and hes redicilous like most DC characters. all prety much the smae to me, with a few exceptions. lame, simply lame Superman does get his powers from the sun, but that doesn't mean he loses them in the dark. His body is like a solar battery and a fight with Scorpion wouldn't last nearly long enough to drain it in any way. Also, Superman's powers are nothing like Magneto's. Raiden could possibly beat Superman. Scorpion actually has a bit of an advantage against Superman. Magic is one of the things Superman is not invulnerable against. However, that only means something against a magical opponent with the speed and strength it would take to kill him, which excludes Scorpion. I'm not saying Superman can beat any MK character. Any one of the MK god characters could very conceivably do it. Scorpion could not. Also, if you want to make the arguement that Scorpion could do it by teleporting Superman to hell, than I submit to you that Aquaman could beat Scorpion by teleporting him to the bottom of the ocean and feeding him to flesh crazed sea cucumbers.
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