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MortalKombatLust  298 posts
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Date Posted: 4/7 8:03am Subject: This is not the solution to prevent failure
I want to know your opinions because mine is that a new mortal kombat with a total new roster is not the solution to erase the failure mortal kombat Armageddon came to be. The problem in Armageddon was not the characters but yes the lack of content, the lack of new stuff and the fact the game was not test sufficiently to prevent glitches. Since Armageddon was a failure they thought "lets erase the past mortal kombat history and start another one anew, new characters and new story". But isn't Ashrah, Dairou, Darrius, Havik, Hotaru, Kira, Kobra, Onaga and Shujinko new characters?! They were introduced in the series at mortal kombat deception, and were appreciate at the extreme? No! And you know why?! because the mortal kombat team is the only producer of fighting games who make the mistake of introducing a lot of new fighters per title instead of just 3 or 4 characters. And now these new characters which appeared in only one or two mortal kombat titles will stay forgotten in the past and more new ones will be made to take place. If they never had make so much new characters in the past, Armageddon roster would be smaller and they had much time left to make the game good balanced. I expect mortal kombat 8 to be a good game since they have worked on it in secret so the fans don’t put them under pressure, but for me it will never be good as the old ones since much of our childhood characters will be forever forgotten. This will not be a mortal kombat game; only sub zero and scorpion alone don’t make of it a mortal kombat game.

I only hope they consider the possibility of downloading old characters (for free) for the consoles. The current platforms have that possibility so it should be used.

What do you guys think?

 

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Date Posted: 4/7 8:23am Subject: RE: This is not the solution to prevent failure
MortalKombatLust posted:
I want to know your opinions because mine is that a new mortal kombat with a total new roster is not the solution to erase the failure mortal kombat Armageddon came to be. The problem in Armageddon was not the characters but yes the lack of content, the lack of new stuff and the fact the game was not test sufficiently to prevent glitches. Since Armageddon was a failure they thought "lets erase the past mortal kombat history and start another one anew, new characters and new story". But isn't Ashrah, Dairou, Darrius, Havik, Hotaru, Kira, Kobra, Onaga and Shujinko new characters?! They were introduced in the series at mortal kombat deception, and were appreciate at the extreme? No! And you know why?! because the mortal kombat team is the only producer of fighting games who make the mistake of introducing a lot of new fighters per title instead of just 3 or 4 characters. And now these new characters which appeared in only one or two mortal kombat titles will stay forgotten in the past and more new ones will be made to take place. If they never had make so much new characters in the past, Armageddon roster would be smaller and they had much time left to make the game good balanced. I expect mortal kombat 8 to be a good game since they have worked on it in secret so the fans don’t put them under pressure, but for me it will never be good as the old ones since much of our childhood characters will be forever forgotten. This will not be a mortal kombat game; only sub zero and scorpion alone don’t make of it a mortal kombat game.

I only hope they consider the possibility of downloading old characters (for free) for the consoles. The current platforms have that possibility so it should be used.

What do you guys think?




I agree with you in the sence that making a new mortal kombat with new caracters wont be a mortal kombat, might as well call it something else. It's just simple if you ask yourself.. "What makes you a fan of Mortal Kombat, What got you to love the game". I dont know about you but for me it was all the old characters and their unique abilities, voices, and even the way they stood. Ohh and about the idea for downloading characters online would be a good idea..

 

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Lin_Kuei_Grandmaster  304 posts
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Date Posted: 4/7 10:39am Subject: RE: This is not the solution to prevent failure
Yeah.. listen Boon already stated some... of the characters will return in MK8. Just the rest will be new. And there should be new characters cause if there aren't you get bored of the old ones. Anyway about the downloading kombatants, I don't see it,l and I hope Midway doesn't see it. Why?
Because:

1. That sounds like something Nintendo would do with their stupid collect all the pokemon - buy two cartriges - Nintendo Event $#!t (I've been there).

2. What's the point of downloading them if they could be in the game by default, it's like unlocking them (Although they could make it like an Update - See EA's Need For Speed).

3. I know it's impossible as I don't even believe it myself, but not everyone has an internet connection at home.

 

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Date Posted: 4/7 12:31pm Subject: RE: This is not the solution to prevent failure
I agree
I never genuinely enjoyed the new characters added in the previous three Mortal Kombats.
Having many new character additions in this upcoming eighth installment may prove as just dull.

Thus, I truly believe adding a Kreate-A-Fighter will be a worthy move to make.

 

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Date Posted: 4/7 12:35pm Subject: RE: This is not the solution to prevent failure
it is true Armageddon was a failure. but the plan to eliminate the old characters was made before Armageddon was released. so its not a way to erase there mistake. i am glad that they will be eliminating charcters, hopefully forever. some characters should not have even been thought of, moloch for example. never really liked him. and downloadable characters does not sound like a good idea, areanas, stuff for create a chracter yes but no characters.

 

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MortalKombatLust  298 posts
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Date Posted: 4/7 1:27pm Subject: RE: This is not the solution to prevent failure
Lin_Kuei_Grandmaster posted:
Yeah.. listen Boon already stated some... of the characters will return in MK8. Just the rest will be new. And there should be new characters cause if there aren't you get bored of the old ones. Anyway about the downloading kombatants, I don't see it,l and I hope Midway doesn't see it. Why?
Because:

1. That sounds like something Nintendo would do with their stupid collect all the pokemon - buy two cartriges - Nintendo Event $#!t (I've been there).

2. What's the point of downloading them if they could be in the game by default, it's like unlocking them (Although they could make it like an Update - See EA's Need For Speed).

3. I know it's impossible as I don't even believe it myself, but not everyone has an internet connection at home.


The problem here is not the fact they are erasing the old "new" characters but the fact they are erasing all of the old characters (only a few like 5 or something will return).

there should be new characters or else we get tired of the old ones?! you say? what kind of mortal kombat fan are you anyway? who gets tired of ermac, reptile or cyrax for example?

about the characters for download soul calibur IV will have them, isn't soul series one of the sucessful fighting games around?! yes it is, and the fact you can download characters for it will only make it more sucessful. I just know soul calibur is so sucessful that midway copied "kreate a kharacter" idea from soul calibur III.

If you don't find old characters interesting you would have no need in download them.

 

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MasterShiraiRyu  2636 posts
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Date Posted: 4/7 1:33pm Subject: RE: This is not the solution to prevent failure
MortalKombatLust posted:


The problem here is not the fact they are erasing the old "new" characters but the fact they are erasing all of the old characters (only a few like 5 or something will return).

there should be new characters or else we get tired of the old ones?! you say? what kind of mortal kombat fan are you anyway? who gets tired of ermac, reptile or cyrax for example?

about the characters for download soul calibur IV will have them, isn't soul series one of the sucessful fighting games around?! yes it is, and the fact you can download characters for it will only make it more sucessful. I just know soul calibur is so sucessful that midway copied "kreate a kharacter" idea from soul calibur III.
If you don't find old characters interesting you would have no need in download them.


i would get tired of of the caracters you listed. and i've been a fan since the beginning. and midway did not copy the create a fighter from soul calibur. create a character has been around since before the soul series. try again.

 

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MortalKombatLust  298 posts
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Date Posted: 4/7 1:50pm Subject: RE: This is not the solution to prevent failure
the characters I picked were just an example, it would be the same if I said sindel, kitana or kung lao.

excuse me?! soul calibur III came out with the create a character mode and months after mortal kombat armageddon came out with the kreate a kharacter mode so, how the hell this mode is around for so long?

 

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Date Posted: 4/7 1:51pm Subject: RE: This is not the solution to prevent failure
MortalKombatLust posted:
Lin_Kuei_Grandmaster posted:
Yeah.. listen Boon already stated some... of the characters will return in MK8. Just the rest will be new. And there should be new characters cause if there aren't you get bored of the old ones. Anyway about the downloading kombatants, I don't see it,l and I hope Midway doesn't see it. Why?
Because:

1. That sounds like something Nintendo would do with their stupid collect all the pokemon - buy two cartriges - Nintendo Event $#!t (I've been there).

2. What's the point of downloading them if they could be in the game by default, it's like unlocking them (Although they could make it like an Update - See EA's Need For Speed).

3. I know it's impossible as I don't even believe it myself, but not everyone has an internet connection at home.


The problem here is not the fact they are erasing the old "new" characters but the fact they are erasing all of the old characters (only a few like 5 or something will return).

there should be new characters or else we get tired of the old ones?! you say? what kind of mortal kombat fan are you anyway? who gets tired of ermac, reptile or cyrax for example?

about the characters for download soul calibur IV will have them, isn't soul series one of the sucessful fighting games around?! yes it is, and the fact you can download characters for it will only make it more sucessful. I just know soul calibur is so sucessful that midway copied "kreate a kharacter" idea from soul calibur III.

If you don't find old characters interesting you would have no need in download them.



You read my mind...If you think key characters such as the ones you mentioned should not come back, then I really dont know what type of fan are you..but about the on-line download option in a way is good but then it's not, simply because not everyone has fast internet connection... Thus leaving some gamers out of the full experience.

 

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Date Posted: 4/7 2:29pm Subject: RE: This is not the solution to prevent failure
The poor work done by the testers was one of Armageddon's downfalls. They didn't decide to kill off characters AFTER armageddon, they made MKA for that sole purpose. I don't mind the idea of new characters, as long as they don't kill off too many fan favorites, and the new ones have charisma.

I'm also hoping they don't use the Gamespy server for MK8 online, I hate how the server lagged so bad for lots of people, and the freezing that happened sometimes when people simply pressed start to chat. Every time I go online, I hear people curse Gamespy for how crappy their servers are.

My number one hope is that Midway hires new glitch testers and not only fires the old ones, but has them blacklisted as testers. I wonder how much work they actually did, if any. Or did they sit around eating chips and talking to eachother, pretending to work only when the boss was around?

 

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MortalKombatLust  298 posts
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Date Posted: 4/7 2:38pm Subject: RE: This is not the solution to prevent failure - Date Edited: 4/7 2:40pm (1 edits total) Edited By: MortalKombatLust
Armitage posted:
The poor work done by the testers was one of Armageddon's downfalls. They didn't decide to kill off characters AFTER armageddon, they made MKA for that sole purpose. I don't mind the idea of new characters, as long as they don't kill off too many fan favorites, and the new ones have charisma.

I'm also hoping they don't use the Gamespy server for MK8 online, I hate how the server lagged so bad for lots of people, and the freezing that happened sometimes when people simply pressed start to chat. Every time I go online, I hear people curse Gamespy for how crappy their servers are.

My number one hope is that Midway hires new glitch testers and not only fires the old ones, but has them blacklisted as testers. I wonder how much work they actually did, if any. Or did they sit around eating chips and talking to eachother, pretending to work only when the boss was around?


the problem is each fan has a different favourite character...

about the downloads... well having internet at home nowadays is a must, pretty much like having tv. If you have internet you only have to get a "router" and voilá, you have internet at your console. is not impossible and is not hard. I bought a router in the last week and having internet in ps3 is awesome!!!

 

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Date Posted: 4/7 2:44pm Subject: RE: This is not the solution to prevent failure - Date Edited: 4/7 2:46pm (1 edits total) Edited By: MasterShiraiRyu
MortalKombatLust posted:
the characters I picked were just an example, it would be the same if I said sindel, kitana or kung lao.

excuse me?! soul calibur III came out with the create a character mode and months after mortal kombat armageddon came out with the kreate a kharacter mode so, how the hell this mode is around for so long?


the other characters you just put i can get tired of too. and you must not have read my post. i said create a character has been around since before the soul series. not mk's "Kreate a Kharacter" soul calibur 3 was not the first game to have create a character. duh!!

and about the dowload thing, not everyone can afford internet at home. it is not as important as anything else. even a t.v. is not a must

 

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Date Posted: 4/7 2:52pm Subject: RE: This is not the solution to prevent failure
MasterShiraiRyu posted:
MortalKombatLust posted:
the characters I picked were just an example, it would be the same if I said sindel, kitana or kung lao.

excuse me?! soul calibur III came out with the create a character mode and months after mortal kombat armageddon came out with the kreate a kharacter mode so, how the hell this mode is around for so long?


the other characters you just put i can get tired of too. and you must not have read my post. i said create a character has been around since before the soul series. not mk's "Kreate a Kharacter" soul calibur 3 was not the first game to have create a character. duh!!

and about the dowload thing, not everyone can afford internet at home. it is not as important as anything else. even a t.v. is not a must


soul calibur III was the first FIGHTING (so you notice the diference) game to have a create a character mode.

anyone who is registed in this forum can afford internet duh, who isn't don't need to know our ideas. and the router is not expensive.

there are any old characters you like?! liu kang? shao kahn? goro? jade? kabal?...

 

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Date Posted: 4/7 2:59pm Subject: RE: This is not the solution to prevent failure
MortalKombatLust posted:
MasterShiraiRyu posted:
MortalKombatLust posted:
the characters I picked were just an example, it would be the same if I said sindel, kitana or kung lao.

excuse me?! soul calibur III came out with the create a character mode and months after mortal kombat armageddon came out with the kreate a kharacter mode so, how the hell this mode is around for so long?


the other characters you just put i can get tired of too. and you must not have read my post. i said create a character has been around since before the soul series. not mk's "Kreate a Kharacter" soul calibur 3 was not the first game to have create a character. duh!!

and about the dowload thing, not everyone can afford internet at home. it is not as important as anything else. even a t.v. is not a must


soul calibur III was the first FIGHTING (so you notice the diference) game to have a create a character mode.

anyone who is registed in this forum can afford internet duh, who isn't don't need to know our ideas. and the router is not expensive.

there are any old characters you like?! liu kang? shao kahn? goro? jade? kabal?...



That is an ignorant statement my friend. Many people use friends computers or have to go to a local library to access the web; some might have access to an internet cafe, but not usually within walking distance. And finances for many people are tight & therefore cannot afford to waste funds on internet.

 

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MortalKombatLust  298 posts
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Date Posted: 4/7 3:27pm Subject: RE: This is not the solution to prevent failure
DragonJack13 posted:
MortalKombatLust posted:
MasterShiraiRyu posted:
[quote=MortalKombatLust]the characters I picked were