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DoubleDown23
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9/9/07 2:06am
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Multiplayer is weak, Unbalanced weapons + Tequila bomb whoring
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I expected skill to be involved in Stranglehold but I was wrong. Multiplayer is all about picking up cranes and using tequila bombs. The assault rifle, pistols, smgs, shotgun are all lacking any fire power. The rocket launcher, golden pistol, and heavy assault rifle completely demolish anyone who holds the others. The weapons are not balanced and the game is based on how well you know where the cranes are. The power to these four weapons needs to be increased.
Also, another thing that should be done is when a player activates and uses a tequila bomb he should be susceptible to damage, not invulnerable. On top of that it shouldn't be so easy to get tequila bombs.
1 crane and 1 kill or 2 cranes = barrage = free kills
2 cranes + 1 kill or 3 cranes = spin attack = free kills
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Payne3000
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Haha you complain already about multiplayer and we PC users don't even have the demo yet.
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fnh
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Yep, multiplayer is completely broken. Everybody is running for the cranes to get Tequila bombs because that's the only way to kill anybody. Normal weapons don't even do any damage.
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dv8withn8
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9/11/07 8:18am
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RE: Multiplayer is weak, Unbalanced weapons + Tequila bomb whoring
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This hasn't been the case when I've played. At least, not to the point where I get PO'd over it. Barrage can be dodged if you out maneuver your opponent. Spin attack can be avoided by diving behind solid cover and by avoiding clusters of people. I well agree the heavy machine gun is pretty powerful and it's best to avoid anyone with it. The rocket launcher needs someone with good aim to be lethal as the splash damage on it isn't very large.
Though, it would be nice if a future patch allowed you to turn off certain weapons or cranes.
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9/11/07 11:43am
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Yes please, add some host options in a patch.. and make that patch soon or this game is dead in mp.
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fnh
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I think it would be better not to have any Tequila bombs at all. I hate it when I get the drop on someone and he turns around and blows me away because he's got Barrage.
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RYAN
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dv8withn8 posted:
This hasn't been the case when I've played. At least, not to the point where I get PO'd over it. Barrage can be dodged if you out maneuver your opponent. Spin attack can be avoided by diving behind solid cover and by avoiding clusters of people. I well agree the heavy machine gun is pretty powerful and it's best to avoid anyone with it. The rocket launcher needs someone with good aim to be lethal as the splash damage on it isn't very large.
Though, it would be nice if a future patch allowed you to turn off certain weapons or cranes.
Thats Exactly what I want. It relly annoys me when all people do is use all the powerful weapons. I wish you could remove certian weapons from the the map so that it takes real skill to actully kill someone
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DoubleDown23
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9/11/07 2:03pm
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dv8withn8 posted:
This hasn't been the case when I've played. At least, not to the point where I get PO'd over it. Barrage can be dodged if you out maneuver your opponent. Spin attack can be avoided by diving behind solid cover and by avoiding clusters of people. I well agree the heavy machine gun is pretty powerful and it's best to avoid anyone with it. The rocket launcher needs someone with good aim to be lethal as the splash damage on it isn't very large.
Though, it would be nice if a future patch allowed you to turn off certain weapons or cranes.
Sure you can dodge the barrage but it doesn't really matter how much you jump around cause you will still be hurting real bad if you were able to get out of it alive. Heres a good one though Rocket launcher + barrage + you diving and attempting to out maneuver him still makes you a recent addition to the land of the dead. Also the spin attack can't be avoided in almost all cases. There isn't any warning. You can just walk up to someone and use it... when spin attack is activated everything goes in slow mo and when this happens it doesn't matter where you try to take cover cause you'll all ready be dead. I've walked up to people in the middle of battles and used it and have taken out everyone one in the process. Like I said Free kills.
Heavy machine gun is very powerful it completely destroys anyone who does not have any tequila bombs or a rocket launcher. The rocket launcher needs good aiming? Your joking right? The rocket launcher, besides the tequila bombs, is the easiest way to get kills. Aim at their feet and they'll die and it doesn't have to be that close either.
Theres more important issues in multiplayer than giving players options to swap weapons or remove cranes (although that would be a good addition), like for instance the ridiculously long load times when searching for a room only to get a message when finally joining one "the game session is no longer available".This is by far the most annoying part of stranglehold's multiplayer.
The current system of tequila bombs + crane pick-ups is easily exploitable. I've gone 20-0 in 3 out of the last 5 games. The competition wasn't good, but still 20-0 off host. You wanna know how? I kept picking up cranes and using tequila bombs. It should be more difficult to get tequila bombs. Delaying the respawn of the cranes or removing 1 or 2 cranes on each map would help, among other of my suggestions in my previous post.
Stranglehold, however is fun to play, its just that the multiplayer is flawed.
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dv8withn8
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9/11/07 2:33pm
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I've dodged several spin attack bombs being not more than a few feet away from the person. Once I remember seeing the animation start and by the time he spun to my direction I was already crouched behind a counter and then I popped up and dropped him with a shotty all while he was cursing "how did he survive?"
As for the rocket launcher, I've never had much luck with it unless I'm really close. And I've shot at their feet seeing the explosion just to their side and walk away seemingly unharmed when you'd think they'd be dead.
As for exploiting the cranes for bombs, how about you just stop doing it? I don't go hunting for cranes and it seems most others I've played against don't either so it's not a big problem. Not really a solution to those who do do it but I consider it taking the high road. But if they get around to limiting them then I think more people will enjoy MP.
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I really enjoy the multiplayer. Me and some guys I met on LIVE were playing for about three hours.
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9/12/07 9:53am
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HAHAHAHAHAHA XD its sooo funny...we pc-user dont even got a demo XD XD  :D
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SinlessOdium
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if you immediately recognize when someone is doing barrage, you can usually run away and not suffer too much. spin attack is overly powerful, but that just means you need to seek and destroy your target before he can get 3 cranes. when someone comes at me with the heavy machine gun, i never run. i go in shooting my shotgun and always take them out. the rockets and golden guns should be policed so that your enemy cannot get them.
if you are complaining about this then there is room for improvement in the way you play. dont bash the game because you cant wrap your brain around the mechanics of the engine.
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12/25/07 11:27pm
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Wait, are you guys talking about multiplayer on PC or X360 or PS3?
I find the biggest PC problem is the damned lobby, you cannot see anyone that is currently in a game or online but not in a room, and there is no chat! You can only see a people that are waiting in a room that hasn't started a game yet. PATCH PATCH PATCH.
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DragonLee2397
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12/28/07 12:59pm
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Why does people complain about things in the game. Multiplayer is good in this game, people do not give it a chance. Also I can beat you in stranglehold without using spin attack and barrage. Or the heavy machine gun, rockets, golden gun. InnocentHate and DragonLee2397 if you want to battle this way.
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