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gojensen
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What worries me though is the lack of real information on this, and since this is a BD-ROM disc (as opposed to a BD video disc) the region coding actually are different. Will the disc be coded for Video or for Data, or maybe both?!
A Japanese PS3 has BD video region A, BUT it has a BD-ROM (i.e. data/game) region of 2. So while it can play all N.A. BD films, it could theoretically NOT play either the game or the movie for this release. Which is worrying as I'm pretty sure there are a lot of Japanese PS3 stateside. Could this bite Midway in the rear?
So, is it possible to get a verified answer as to whether this will be coded for;
- BD Video (Region A)?
- BD Rom/Game (Region 1)?
Wiki refers to the region codes as A/1 B/2 etc. But as far as I know BDA just uses A, B and C, and so does Sony... So can I take the references to Region 1 as meaning it will be BDROM locked - or just the common misconception that BD Region A is the same as Region 1?
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Darji
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gojensen posted:
What worries me though is the lack of real information on this, and since this is a BD-ROM disc (as opposed to a BD video disc) the region coding actually are different. Will the disc be coded for Video or for Data, or maybe both?!
A Japanese PS3 has BD video region A, BUT it has a BD-ROM (i.e. data/game) region of 2. So while it can play all N.A. BD films, it could theoretically NOT play either the game or the movie for this release. Which is worrying as I'm pretty sure there are a lot of Japanese PS3 stateside. Could this bite Midway in the rear?
So, is it possible to get a verified answer as to whether this will be coded for;
- BD Video (Region A)?
- BD Rom/Game (Region 1)?
Wiki refers to the region codes as A/1 B/2 etc. But as far as I know BDA just uses A, B and C, and so does Sony... So can I take the references to Region 1 as meaning it will be BDROM locked - or just the common misconception that BD Region A is the same as Region 1?
yeah that one is worring me too. I have a japanese PS3 and dont know which Version i can play. But it seems that no one here really cares about these problems...
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NAZAR
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Ok, Midway. So you're saying "europeans are dumb bunnies and should be happy to even getting the game released in PAL regions" and making a precedent for region locked games...
Let's see then, how dumb europeans will buy your game. Motherchipmunks.
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Echo77
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caudex posted:
i think there is some serious communication problems within midway.
anyway, to clarify, all ps3 games are region free. when ps3 games are completed, they are sent to sony for manufacturing. During this stage, it is sony that applies regions to the game, which the developers have no say in.
Sony has said that all ps3 games past, present, and future will all be region free. end of story.
The region coding is probably referring to the actual bluray movie disk that will come with the game.
I'm working on getting a definitive answer for you guys. There is confusion because of the differences between the regular edition and the collector's edition and how they will be coded regionally. Please be patient! I'll let you guys know what I hear as soon as I hear it. Thanks.
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Darji
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Echo77 posted:
caudex posted:
i think there is some serious communication problems within midway.
anyway, to clarify, all ps3 games are region free. when ps3 games are completed, they are sent to sony for manufacturing. During this stage, it is sony that applies regions to the game, which the developers have no say in.
Sony has said that all ps3 games past, present, and future will all be region free. end of story.
The region coding is probably referring to the actual bluray movie disk that will come with the game.
I'm working on getting a definitive answer for you guys. There is confusion because of the differences between the regular edition and the collector's edition and how they will be coded regionally. Please be patient! I'll let you guys know what I hear as soon as I hear it. Thanks.
great and can you please find out if i can play the movie and the game with my japanese PS3 even when its region locked 1 because the Japan and America have the same codes.
Thank you^^
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Echo77
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Darji posted:
Echo77 posted:
caudex posted:
i think there is some serious communication problems within midway.
anyway, to clarify, all ps3 games are region free. when ps3 games are completed, they are sent to sony for manufacturing. During this stage, it is sony that applies regions to the game, which the developers have no say in.
Sony has said that all ps3 games past, present, and future will all be region free. end of story.
The region coding is probably referring to the actual bluray movie disk that will come with the game.
I'm working on getting a definitive answer for you guys. There is confusion because of the differences between the regular edition and the collector's edition and how they will be coded regionally. Please be patient! I'll let you guys know what I hear as soon as I hear it. Thanks.
great and can you please find out if i can play the movie and the game with my japanese PS3 even when its region locked 1 because the Japan and America have the same codes.
Thank you^^
I have posed this question to Midway as well and am awaiting a response.
tjam posted:
The plot thickens so speak.
I contacted videogamesplus.ca about this, who in turn contacted Midway.
Videogamesplus posted:
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Hello,
Just to let you know I have contacted Midway support myself and this is the response I received :
"Thank you for contacting Midway Tech/Customer Support. Please see
below for details about your inquiry to Midway.
Both PS3 versions will be region free. The 360 version has not been
decided upon as yet, however the 360 collectors edition will include the
movie Hard Boiled on DVD. This DVD may be region locked."
Thanks,
Sidney
Customer Service Representative
VIDEOGAMESPLUS.CA
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I don't know what to believe anymore!
Why don't Midway provide one consistent message? The left hand doesn't seem to know what the right hand does! So frustrating!
As mentioned, I'm awaiting a definitive response on the PS3 coding, however, I needed to clairfy this: the 360 Special Edition will NOT include the movie. HERE is info on the 360 Special Edition.
The PS3 Collectors Edition is the only one that will carry the movie in Blu Ray.
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billythekid
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I hope the xbox 360 version is codefree!!!!!!!!!
I WANT THIS GAME SO BAD MY PERSONAL GAME OF THE YEAR!!!!
Do you know the release date for the asian version(xbox 360) of the game???
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Echo77
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billythekid posted:
I hope the xbox 360 version is codefree!!!!!!!!!
I WANT THIS GAME SO BAD MY PERSONAL GAME OF THE YEAR!!!!
Do you know the release date for the asian version(xbox 360) of the game???
I *think* 360 is region free. I am not sure about the asian version.
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gameofdeath69
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Hi i recieved the same reply from videogamesplus, i asked them if they expected the special edition to be region free and i recieved the email this
It's getting very confusing even with our response from Miday customer support. We are trying to get o hold of a higher up in the midway company to find out exactly what the situation is regarding the PS3 versions, if they are both region free and if the movie will be if it's included on disc. Also we are hearing the 360 collecter version may now include the movie on a seprate DVD. Right now we have to go by what the rep at Midway told us we are just trying to get a 100% confirmation. I will email you back when we hera and post blog about it.
Thanks,
Sidney
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VIDEOGAMESPLUS.CA
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On Wed Aug 1 14:39 , 'Paul McCartney' sent:
Hi,
does that mean that the movie on the special edition will play on a pal ps3?
Cause if so i had originaly pre ordered it but didnt think it would work so
i cancelled it,
Thanks
Paul
From: Videogamesplus.ca Customer Service
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To: "Paul" <@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Enquiry from VIDEOGAMESPLUS.CA
Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 08:47:44 -0500
Hi,
We contacetd Midway directly and their customer service rep confirmned that Strangelhold PS3 both versions is region free. We will post up their answer on our blog at some point today as we are getting alot of emails regarding this.
Thanks,
Sidney
Customer Service Representative
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On Wed Aug 1 5:29 , 'Paul' sent:
Hi, In regards to my order, i have been reading that both versions of
stranglehold will be region locked, is this true? if so i would like to
cancel my order as i have a pal ps3. If not then i would like to keep my
pre-order, can you assure me that the standard edition that i have ordered is region free Thanks
Paul
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caudex
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for christ sake. ps3 games are NOT region locked. Bluray movies on the other hand can be region locked. IF the movie is locked to a region, for people who purchase the special edition game, you will still be able to play the game. you just won't be able to watch the bonus movie disk unless your ps3 is of the same region.
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Echo, is it possible to also try and get a definative answer in regards to the 360 version being region free?
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gojensen
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caudex; no ps3games are region coded... YET. The system fully allows for region coding - and if you inspect your PS3 packaging you'll see 4 region codes listed, one for BluRay movies, one for BD-ROM (i.e. games discs), one for DVD-Video and one for PS2 compability (NTSC, NTSC-J, PAL). Sony has said they won't region code games... however 3rd party suppliers (like Midway) may do so... it would be stupid yes, but it's possible.
Anyways, only Midway can give a definitive answer on how these PS3 discs are coded (if at all) - and if it's "movie-coding" or "game-coding" or both.
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gojensen posted:
caudex; no ps3games are region coded... YET. The system fully allows for region coding - and if you inspect your PS3 packaging you'll see 4 region codes listed, one for BluRay movies, one for BD-ROM (i.e. games discs), one for DVD-Video and one for PS2 compability (NTSC, NTSC-J, PAL). Sony has said they won't region code games... however 3rd party suppliers (like Midway) may do so... it would be stupid yes, but it's possible.
Anyways, only Midway can give a definitive answer on how these PS3 discs are coded (if at all) - and if it's "movie-coding" or "game-coding" or both.
unfortunately this is incorrect. developers and 3rd part distributors have no say in whether a game is region coded or not. The decision lies with sony, as they are the people who apply region coding to games once they recieve the final product for manufacturing.
This has been confirmed by insomniac in their official forums.
Sony has also said that past, present, and future games will not be region coded. Unless midway are authoring/manufacturing the discs themselves (which i highly doubt they are), then the game will not be region coded.
bluray disc movie on the otherhand might.
i stand by my statement.
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gameofdeath69
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caudex posted:
for christ sake. ps3 games are NOT region locked. Bluray movies on the other hand can be region locked. IF the movie is locked to a region, for people who purchase the special edition game, you will still be able to play the game. you just won't be able to watch the bonus movie disk unless your ps3 is of the same region.
How would this be possible if you try to boot up a region locked ps2 game for example the it wont even start, how would they implement booting up the disc in the first place? nevermind having to pick the game or movie? maybe from the xmb?
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gojensen
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gojensen
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Apparently there won't be a bonus disc... game and movie will be on the same disc... as far as I've understood things atleast. And as Weinstein/DragonDynasty only have North American distribution rights to Hard Boiled it (the disc) would need to be restricted somehow.
So I really need to know wether this will be BD-ROM locked (Region 1) or BluRay movie locked (Region A).
Oh and caudex; are you sure that's not because Sony Computer Entertainment is the publisher of Insomniac's games that Sony decides the region coding? It's my understanding that Midway is publishing Stranglehold...
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