Mortal Kombat: Shaolin Monks
 
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Date Posted: 6/29 11:46am Subject: MK: Shaolin Monks - An incomplete game.
MK: SM is one of the two best MK games I have ever played. It is just plain awesome. The way they made the adventure game based on Deception's Konquest remade into fighting made my day. But after several days beyond completion of the game, I realised that it is uncompleted. The game is incomplete in two ways:
1. Leftovers from a bigger game,
2. Thoughts of Mavado.

1. Leftovers.

If any of you have viewed the video, where a guy uses Action Replay Max to change into lots of different characters, you can see him morph into some interesting ones. He morphs into Jax, Jade, Kitana, Mileena. But that's not so interesting, as the specific "one of the many" Null. This "Null" character takes the shape of a Medusa(look it up in Wiki ic you 'unno whatitis). It is an archer unit. Also, by investigation, there are other characters that you can use. Sonya, Sheeva for example. They were made into the game, but have no moves. This proves that the game is incomplete, because of the early deadline Midway set as a goal. Playing versus these characters would be cool, wouldn't it?

2. My thoughts.

The game is not only incomplete because of unused content, but also because of skipped content. The game is based between MK1 and MK2. You have all the MK1 Characters, Sonya & Kano Being Unplayable.
Then, we have all MK2 characters, only Kung Lao, Baraka and Kitana(versus) being playable. This means that ALL characters are in the game between the first two games, BUT! There are two characters who are either unplayable or cinematic only characters: Sonya and Raiden. Sonya only appears in cinematics, yet she can be played as - but she does not have a move list. Raiden is the same - but he cannot be played as with ARMax! They Could have been playable. There are lots of topics that point out that every character should have been playable (except Kintaro, Goro and Kahn). Every character has 3 special moves. Let me list a few unplayables (Armax Only) that have these 3 specials:

Jax: Ground Pound, Arm Wave, Gotcha! Grab
Mileena: Sai Shot, Ground Roll, Teleport Kick
Jade: Boomerang, Staff Slam, Shadow Kick
Shang Tsung: Soul/Skull shots, Volcanic Eruption, Morph.
Error (who, yet is in the game, but doesn't have moves in ARMax)
Macro: Telekinetic Slam, Hado Energy and a third move i can't remember.

While posting this, I watched a video about these "deleted" characters.
They Include bosses, Gigantic creatures that you were to fight. One boss has 4 arms and reminds me of Sheeva. And as far as i can see, it seems like !!!SMOKE!!! can be unlocked with an ARMax code, too! OMG!
This proves that the game could be even better...
Watch the video, then reply to this topic and say your opinion

To spectate, click -> The Mystic Content <- here.

 

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Date Posted: 6/29 1:49pm Subject: MK: Shaolin Monks - An incomplete game.
agreed

mksm had the potential to be even better if it was complete.

i think it could have been one of the greatest ps2 games of all time if midway had taken their time to complete it.

you also forgot to mention how scorpion and sub-zero could have had their very own story modes(ones that are not in the liu kang/kung lao storyline)

and i beleave,every mk charecter could have had 10 fatalities as well.

mksm could have also had a 2 vs 2 mode since the 3d free movement mksm has allows for more than 2 charectars to battle against each other(as opposed to the other mk games)

 

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Date Posted: 6/29 8:27pm Subject: MK: Shaolin Monks - An incomplete game.
I've said similar stuff in so many different topics so many times. And I completely agree with you, dude. JFCalibur has even posted a bunch of videos about a lot of it.

But just call "Error Macro" Ermac. :P lol

 

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Date Posted: 6/30 5:21am Subject: MK: Shaolin Monks - An incomplete game.
Looks like those Game Over messages weren't jokes.

 

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Date Posted: 6/30 4:50pm Subject: MK: Shaolin Monks - An incomplete game.
i really dont understand that question

 

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Date Posted: 7/1 1:05pm Subject: MK: Shaolin Monks - An incomplete game.
Noz-King posted:
Looks like those Game Over messages weren't jokes.


I see what you did thar mischief

Thanks for pointing out the Sub-Zero/Scorpion storyline. They really could have had their own storylines. And they also could have spent time voicing Sub-Zero and Scorpion in Story Mode! I've also found that MK2's disappearance on the PAL Ps2 is because of GERMANY. They were the only ones who banned MK2. At least they could make an agreement with Sony not to release it there, or release an MK2-less version.
Yes, JFCalibur uploaded those videos, and really, so much could be implemented in the game. That's what I stole from you, E_E, the idea of implementing missing characters mischief
Yeah, the storyline was also false, messed up, wrong, according to MK1-MK2.

I'm going to point out an example that was messed up during the game, not storyline wise.

In the intro movie, you can see all those kombatants fighting. There is REPTILE. When goro comes and smashes every pillar along with Liu Kang humiliating Tsung, Tsung opens a portal that leads out of the island. The forces of evil use this portal to escape. The fighters that escaped through are:

Shang Tsung, Baraka, REPTILE!!!, Scorpion and Goro. They were TRANSPORTED OUTSIDE THE ISLAND (probably to outworld). The forces of light have to get out via goro's lair. This is where the fools messed up: When you advance in goro's lair, after the second room, you reach "The Pit I" area. As you would go further, Cage is seen knocking an oni down onto the spikes. Then, you go up, till you reach the bridge... Then a cutscene starts... Who do we see...? ! REPTILE !, who is supposed to be outside the island. Woot.

Another interesting thing is that Scorpion is NEUTRAL, yet he goes with the forces of darkness through the portal. Even in MK1, his goal was to finish Sub-Zero. Yet he still escapes as an evil guy. In MK1, Sub-Zero was neutral too. He should have left then, rather than staying with the forces of Light. Raiden DID NOT ASK Sub-Zero to participate. He got invited by Tsung. That's another "woot".

I might write Sub/Scorp storyline for MKSM, tune in! lol

 

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Date Posted: 7/1 3:58pm Subject: MK: Shaolin Monks - An incomplete game.
No, no. Both Sonya and Raiden appear in-game so they have a model, but never use moves in-game so they don't have a move-set.

Sonya is chained up in the background of Kahn's arena during gameplay, that's why she's playable. Raiden appears when Shang morphs into him in a real-time cutscene only, which is why he's not playable.

 

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Date Posted: 7/2 10:28am Subject: MK: Shaolin Monks - An incomplete game.
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MK: SM is one of the two best MK games I have ever played. It is just plain awesome. The way they made the adventure game based on Deception's Konquest remade into fighting made my day. But after several days beyond completion of the game, I realised that it is uncompleted. The game is incomplete in two ways:
1. Leftovers from a bigger game,
2. Thoughts of Mavado.

1. Leftovers.

If any of you have viewed the video, where a guy uses Action Replay Max to change into lots of different characters, you can see him morph into some interesting ones. He morphs into Jax, Jade, Kitana, Mileena. But that's not so interesting, as the specific "one of the many" Null. This "Null" character takes the shape of a Medusa(look it up in Wiki ic you 'unno whatitis). It is an archer unit. Also, by investigation, there are other characters that you can use. Sonya, Sheeva for example. They were made into the game, but have no moves. This proves that the game is incomplete, because of the early deadline Midway set as a goal. Playing versus these characters would be cool, wouldn't it?

2. My thoughts.

The game is not only incomplete because of unused content, but also because of skipped content. The game is based between MK1 and MK2. You have all the MK1 Characters, Sonya & Kano Being Unplayable.
Then, we have all MK2 characters, only Kung Lao, Baraka and Kitana(versus) being playable. This means that ALL characters are in the game between the first two games, BUT! There are two characters who are either unplayable or cinematic only characters: Sonya and Raiden. Sonya only appears in cinematics, yet she can be played as - but she does not have a move list. Raiden is the same - but he cannot be played as with ARMax! They Could have been playable. There are lots of topics that point out that every character should have been playable (except Kintaro, Goro and Kahn). Every character has 3 special moves. Let me list a few unplayables (Armax Only) that have these 3 specials:

Jax: Ground Pound, Arm Wave, Gotcha! Grab
Mileena: Sai Shot, Ground Roll, Teleport Kick
Jade: Boomerang, Staff Slam, Shadow Kick
Shang Tsung: Soul/Skull shots, Volcanic Eruption, Morph.
Error (who, yet is in the game, but doesn't have moves in ARMax)
Macro: Telekinetic Slam, Hado Energy and a third move i can't remember.

While posting this, I watched a video about these "deleted" characters.
They Include bosses, Gigantic creatures that you were to fight. One boss has 4 arms and reminds me of Sheeva. And as far as i can see, it seems like !!!SMOKE!!! can be unlocked with an ARMax code, too! OMG!
This proves that the game could be even better...
Watch the video, then reply to this topic and say your opinion

To spectate, click -> The Mystic Content <- here.


the characters that were missing, like the medusa chick, you really cant complain about. the finished game was fine and was not missing her. no one would even know of her existence if it wasnt for ar max codes. so saying the game is bad because of stuff that wasnt included because of time is unfair. if the finished game didnt need her then that didnt make it incomplete.


the characters that are unplayable are that way because thats the way they designed the game. once more, no one would even know they were usable without ar codes. the game is complete, the codes just let you take advantage of programming. i can 100% agree that it would have been awesome to be the other characters, but that doesnt make the game incomplete, that just means it has bonuses. so you can complain about the game not being up to your par, but you really cant say they didnt finish it.

 

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Date Posted: 7/5 9:34pm Subject: MK: Shaolin Monks - An incomplete game.
MK Shaolin Monks v2?

 

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