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secondgen Posts: 96 Registered: Jul '05	Date Posted: 8/30/05 3:14am Subject: RE: Gameplay Overhaul Sorely Needed for the Next MK
	_____ posted: Yeah that's true. Anything to boost sales. Though, if Midway spend time putting together a deep game, i'm sure that the sales would shoot through the roof on their own. And herein lies the terrible irony that is killing MK. They think that somehow they're reaching a wider audience with online play and gimmicks than they would with a deep, carefully tested tourney-worthy fighter. Imagine, just for a moment, an EVO-worthy MK. It would probably shatter the sales records of any fighter, from any developer. Like you said, talk to anyone over at shoryuken.com or zaibatsu, and a lot of them would tell you that they are, or were at one time, MK fans. Gameplay matters, Boon. -----signature----- ~nKo~MKO Invasion~nKo~
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FLSTYLE Posts: 5 Registered: Jul '05	Date Posted: 8/31/05 10:46am Subject: RE: Gameplay Overhaul Sorely Needed for the Next MK
	Yeah, not much to say that hasn't been said. I'd just like to point out that I think the reason MK:D is what it is today is because of a lack of research on Boon + co's part on 3D fighting games. I understand that MK has come from a 2D background, but too many aspects that are todays standard for 3D fighting games are missing, even 2D fighters now have a sense of risk/reward, which in turn makes all games more skillful. Things I want in the next MK are: - A noticable difference in the amount of infinates, hell half of the amount of MK:D will do, just to show that Boon + Co know what they're doing, preferbly none, no matter how long it takes. - A genuine OKI (ground game)system - Parries and reversals instead of "breakers" - Risk/Reward system based on frame-rate. All these should make for a more skillful game and one that all fans will be happy with, not just the fatality/storyline types.
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Jigsaw Posts: 35 Registered: Jul '05	Date Posted: 8/31/05 11:14am Subject: RE: Gameplay Overhaul Sorely Needed for the Next MK
	Mortal Kombat Deception is about 15 years after its time, as far as game mechanics go. There really isn't many other ways to put it. I'm not sure what annoys me more, the stupid stuff that's in it, or the vital stuff that's not. :P It's going to be interesting to see what MK7 will bring... I highly doubt it's a refined - or even a basic, functioning - fighting engine, though. It would be nice if Boon's team actually listened and/or learnt what makes a fighting game... As mentioned, they'd have a lot to gain from it considering there are quite a lot of serious fighting game players out there, who currently do little more than scoff, or more likely, laugh, at Midway's efforts. Can't really say I blame them, either.
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secondgen Posts: 96 Registered: Jul '05	Date Posted: 8/31/05 1:28pm Subject: RE: Gameplay Overhaul Sorely Needed for the Next MK - Date Edited: 8/31/05 1:31pm (1 edits total) Edited By: secondgen
	MK as a franchise has come to a crossroads. At this point in time, MK isn't even a fighting game. It's rock, paper, scissors with lifebars. Boon may have helped to create MK, but he is single-handedly destroying it. It never did have any credibility as a competitive fighter in the first place, but UMK3 provided hope. Then MK4 came along and nearly killed the franchise. They resurrect the series and make the jump to full 3D with DA, but the finished product demonstrated that the design team knew virtually nothing about 3D fighters or competitive gameplay. In fact, they act as if it's irrelevant. As if it doesn't even matter. The fact that Deception is even worse than DA says a lot. They spent no time whatsoever trying to correct the problems of the previous game, and actually created more. I'm holding out one last hope that MK7 will show some kind of progress. But I have a feeling that MK will never become a serious fighter as long as Boon is the project lead. Until the higher ups at Midway see the reality of MK and get rid of Boon or put him in a more limited role, MK will continue to be a joke, and I for one will have no part of it. If MK7 doesn't show some kind of progress (and by progress I mean competitive, non-broken gameplay, not mini-games, pictures of the design team in the krypt, or other worthless fluff), then I personally will be done with MK. I can only speak for myself, but I'm sure there are plenty of people my age, who were around since MK1, that agree with me. Hell, most of them stopped playing MK 7 years ago. Why do you think that is? Because there are better fighters out there, and MK has never tried to compete. I'm 25 years old. I've been with MK since the beginning. Over time, I've grown, and I've matured. MK hasn't. Like someone else just said, MK is 15 years behind it's time. If Midway wants to cater to 11&12 year olds who generally don't know anything about fighting games or how to play them, fine. You will be losing whatever is left of the fanbase that made MK what it is in the first place. Seeing as how these are Midway's boards, maybe somebody who matters will see these problems, see that their customers see these problems as well, realize that we ain't too friggin happy about it, and do something about it. Like I said before, the problems and solutions to those problems have already been explained. The ball is in your court, Midway. Fix the problems for MK7. If you don't, then I, and a lot of players like me who are still around, will wash our hands of you for good. We've been around since the beginning, and we've continually been dissapointed. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. I refuse to be fooled any longer. [/rant] -----signature----- ~nKo~MKO Invasion~nKo~
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