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CAGE_JOHNNY  5465 posts
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Date Posted: 8/15 2:02pm Subject: Anyone else notice Frost is better than Sub Zero in this game?
Frost its justa female copy of Sub-zero the MK team need more imagination because if they are going to create characters same that others them the game will loose many thnigs each character must be original we dont whant copies

 

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iSub-Zero03  3297 posts
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Date Posted: 8/15 2:12pm Subject: Anyone else notice Frost is better than Sub Zero in this game?
Frost is just a pathetic female copy of Sub-Zero, I hope the MK Team don't add her to any future MK game roster, they should learn from their mistakes not repeat them.

 

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Oinie04  18863 posts
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Date Posted: 8/15 2:15pm Subject: Anyone else notice Frost is better than Sub Zero in this game? - Date Edited: 8/15 2:20pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Oinie04
FROST IS NOT A COPY OF SUB-ZERO!!!!!!!!! angry , She has her own moveset except that she only use Sub-Zero Ice Puddle.

why don't you hate Kira, She's just a female copycat of Sonya and Kano.

 

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Doom_Master  11142 posts
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Date Posted: 8/15 2:20pm Subject: Anyone else notice Frost is better than Sub Zero in this game?
I like both. I do like Sub-Zero more, but, I did find Frost great in Deadly Alliance and Armageddon.
She had a great alternative costume too grin

 

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RobertReiko  267 posts
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Date Posted: 8/15 3:25pm Subject: Anyone else notice Frost is better than Sub Zero in this game?
Sub has more power, you'd be stupid to think otherwise.

 

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Date Posted: 8/16 2:15am Subject: Anyone else notice Frost is better than Sub Zero in this game? - Date Edited: 8/16 2:15am (1 edits total) Edited By: Zmoke
Maybe Frost comes back now being more powerful than Sub-Zero when she was frozen into that ice coffin where she planned how to steal Sub-Zero's amulet.

 

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iSub-Zero03  3297 posts
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Date Posted: 8/18 1:19pm Subject: Anyone else notice Frost is better than Sub Zero in this game?
Honestly, I hate Frost because of her storyline, she betrayed Sub-Zero, one of my favorite characters, also I say she's only a pathetic female copy not because she stole one of Sub-Zero's special move but for being a newcomer trying to make Sub-Zero's concept (powerful, noble, and honorable cryo warrior) a joke (insane, weak, dishonorable cryo).

 

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Sub-cero  3621 posts
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Date Posted: 8/18 6:59pm Subject: Anyone else notice Frost is better than Sub Zero in this game?
Shut up. grin (You know I'm kidding)

 

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Date Posted: 8/19 3:11pm Subject: Anyone else notice Frost is better than Sub Zero in this game?
OMG! I just saw Sub-Zero 300 kick Frost into the MK1 pit bottom! mischief

 

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Deinonychus  104 posts
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Date Posted: 8/22 1:59am Subject: Anyone else notice Frost is better than Sub Zero in this game?
kool tats nice-^
hey i just tried frost and wtf shes better than sub zero atleast her specuial moves r well maybe in general she quicker and more agile that sub zero is

 

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Date Posted: 8/22 11:02am Subject: Anyone else notice Frost is better than Sub Zero in this game?
Deinonychus posted:
kool tats nice-^
hey i just tried frost and wtf shes better than sub zero atleast her specuial moves r well maybe in general she quicker and more agile that sub zero is


Thats what i was trying to say. Just her special moves are better.

 

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Date Posted: 9/8 10:27pm Subject: Anyone else notice Frost is better than Sub Zero in this game?
Her special moves were awsome.

 

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Date Posted: 9/9 9:22am Subject: Anyone else notice Frost is better than Sub Zero in this game?
MKA Tier List:

"Elder God Tier" (Banned):
KAK

"God Tier" (Banned as well):
Blaze
Moloch
Onaga

"Top Tier" (Most viable characters):
Sareena
Drahmin
Scorpion
Dairou
Sub-Zero
Kenshi
Noob
Kung Lao
Tanya
Quan Chi
Mavado
Kabal

"High Tier" (Competitively viable, but not as much as Top Tier):
Bo Rai Cho
Raiden
Jade
Ashrah
Jarek
Smoke
Shinnok
Chameleon
Sonya
Mileena
Hotaru
Jax
Reptile

"Mid Tier" (Not quite viable, but can win):
Kira
Nightwolf
Stryker
Cage
Kintaro
Darrius
Kitana
Hsu Hao
Li Mei
Sektor
Havik
Daegon
Liu Kang
Baraka
Sheeva
Goro
Nitara
Rain

"Low Tier" (Not reliable characters, but can still win):
Taven
Cyrax
Kobra
Fujin
Ermac
Shao Kahn
Kano
Reiko
Meat

"Bottom Tier" (Are completely outclassed by anything other than themselves or bottom of low tier):
Motaro
Frost
Shang Tsung
Shujinko
Kai
Sindel
Nitara

Sub-Zero: great character overall, solid and versatile, hardly any mismatches, has a lot of moves that lead into free throws for decent damage, however, he lacks aerial cancels,which keeps his damage mostly under 40%

Sub can turtle, he has nice damage, mids, safeness, unparryble attacks, he has everything.
-He has a projectile that gives a free combo
-He has baiting and turtling special (Ice Clone), easy to trick people into
-He has Icy Pillar to get people off guard
-He has great mixups, safe combos, safe mids, unparryble kick and great low pokes.
Hes actually better than Noob. Noob is better when the player has alot of lag on his side tho.

He is high tier because of Shotokan 3 and his throw.
Shotokan 3 is a safe mid attack that leads into a free throw.

Shotokan: Shotokan hasn't changed much from its MKD version except that attack 3 hits mid like it did in MKDA. Because of this change, Shotokan is much better as attack 3 is part of some of his combos like 3, F + 3 and 1, 1, 3, B + 2. Attack 3 can lead to a free throw. 3, F + 3 and 1, 1, 3, F + 3 can push a blocking opponent away. D + 1 is a good low poke move like it was in MKD.

Kori Blade: Kori Blade is more or less like it was in MKD, which is a good thing. The key moves are B + 2, D + 2, D + 3, and the 1, B + 1 combo. B + 2 is a good mid pop up that has good range, but it's bad to use up close. D + 2 is a mid-hitting uppercut. Combine that with the Cold Shoulder and you get an unbreakable 21% damage combo. Even better would be to do B + 2...D + 2...Cold Shoulder for more damage. D + 3 is the low move to use. 1, B + 1 is a good two-hit combo that plant slides the opponent.

COMBOS:

Shotokan:
[25%] 12b2,123
[25%] 113b2,113cs
[26%] 3b2,113cs
[27%] b2,113cs
[29%] 12b2,113cs
[33%] b2,12,113cs
[40%] Icy Pillar,12,113cs
[41%] Icy Pillar,12,12,Cold Shoulder - (deals 25% if you start from b2)
[43%] Icy Pillar,12,12,cs,b2
[49%] Icy Pillar,12,124,Cold Shoulder
[50%] Icy Pillar,12,113cs

Shotokan - 12b2,cs,jump, 1134 - 27%
Shotokan - 12b2,b2,jump, 114,113 - 29%
Shotokan - 12b2,cs,b2,jump 1134 - 29%

Kori Blade:
[25%] b2,b2,1b1
[31%] b2,cs,113cs
[36%] b2,cs,12,12,Cold Shoulder
[38%] b2,cs,12,113cs
[40%] b2,cs,12,124,Cold Shoulder

Kori Blade - b2,b2, jump, 1134 - 28%
Kori Blade - b2,jump,cs,114,cs,1134 - 36%
Kori Blade - b+2, cs, 1,2, 1,2,4 (wall) d+2 - 44%

Special Moves:
[19%] Ice Clone,Throw (teleports). There are however better options

Frost is just bad. Very poor character. She doesn't have one single mid move (one that cannot be crouch blocked) as unbelievable as it may sound. She does have 2,2 (high,mid), though, but that's it. All you have to do against her is watch out for the unblockable Ice Puddle. Everything else she does is crouch blockable and punishable. In other words,when she misses her attacks (which are all high attacks), get up from the crouching position immediately and punish her (either be throwing her,uppercuting her,etc.).

Frost's just flat-out unsafe and has to take huge risks in order to even bother dealing damage to you. Her specials are okay, but they just don't cut it.

Frost's Tong Bei is horrible style, has no range, as I said has no mids, everything in it is parryable by opponent. Daggers are a bit better, but arent good as well.

COMBOS:

Tong Bei - u1,cs,112 - 23%
Tong Bei - u1,112cs - 25%

Tong Bei - U+1, cs,jump, 1,1,2, 1,1,3,4 - 33%
Tong Bei - DB+4, cs,jump, 1,1,2, 1,1,3,4 - 31%

Daggers - b3,b3,23 - 31%
Daggers - b3,b3,2b2 - 32%
Daggers - b3,b3,cs,112cs - 33%

Daggers - b+3, cs, 1,1, 1,1,2,cs - 39%

Daggers - b+3, jump, 1,1,2, 1,1,3,4 - 36%

 

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Cage2007 
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Date Posted: 9/9 6:06pm Subject: Anyone else notice Frost is better than Sub Zero in this game?
I like both characters, but Sub-Zero more.
When it comes to fighting styles, Frost was better in MKDA because she had an extra fighting style to work with. In MKA she only has two, so that's why, I think, she isn't as versatile as she once was. Just my opinion.
Shotokan is a good style for Sub-Zero and if you're good enough, you can create a few, (but good), combo string damage.

 

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Date Posted: 9/9 6:13pm Subject: Anyone else notice Frost is better than Sub Zero in this game?
Cage2007 posted:
I like both characters, but Sub-Zero more.
When it comes to fighting styles, Frost was better in MKDA because she had an extra fighting style to work with. In MKA she only has two, so that's why, I think, she isn't as versatile as she once was. Just my opinion.
Shotokan is a good style for Sub-Zero and if you're good enough, you can create a few, (but good), combo string damage.




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No, just kidding. I like your font colors.

I hate frost though. whistling

 

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