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oldmanjenkins
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do you believe that there are any cheap characters, (not KAK)
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my bro keeps saying that Scorpion is extremelly good in MKA, because of a couple of factors
1. Throw is overdamaging
2. Can block attacks when others should be wide open
3. insanley fast combos
4. Sword has alot of overdamaging attacks (actually agree on this one)
now both of us are really good players and have been playing since MK1(obviously) so when he thinks that there are characters that are cheap, i have to wonder if others think that this is true? so what do you think
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It is not the characters, but the person behind them. Same can be said for KAK. My KAK is legitimate, however, if someone tries to use a KAK with cheap moves and combos, I put a 63 percent damage combo into my KAK that I use for those circumstances. I never use that combo if the KAK I'm fighting is legit. I also only pick KAK after my opponent does.
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i dont think there are any cheap characters, just ones that alot of people have a certain negative felling towards them.
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there are not cheap characters, just lame cheap scrub users
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All of the 4 reasons you mentioned find me absolutely agreed! You just get used to his strategy after a while. And this can help you predict his next move and punish him. But that's not for Scorpy only, it goes for every MkA fighter.
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Scorpion is only #1 because of his forward attack 1 in weapon. And his unbreakable 30%+ combo that ends in a 50/50.
For the most part any of the high tiers are cheap and broken. That is why they are high tiers. No mk game has ever been about balance in characters. Just the story line.
Cheap and broken moves are put in the game to be abused. If they weren’t why would they put them in the game.
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andjusticeforall posted:
Scorpion is only #1 because of his forward attack 1 in weapon. And his unbreakable 30%+ combo that ends in a 50/50.
For the most part any of the high tiers are cheap and broken. That is why they are high tiers. No mk game has ever been about balance in characters. Just the story line.
Cheap and broken moves are put in the game to be abused. If they weren’t why would they put them in the game.
Scorpion isn't #1. Sareena is. Although online Scorpion is very safe because lag smudges all the gameplay.
UMK3 actually was about balance. 10 character top tier, no god tier, no broken characters, nearly everybody could be used in high level play. Sadly, its the only MK game that fits the bill.
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Sareena is only #1 online. Offline she is lucky to even be in the top 10. She drops so much because her ff1 is easily punishable. And here knives can be jump kicked or side stepped and punished. While online she recovers from those instantly.
But I think Sub zero gives her a good run for the #1 spot online now. Him being able to impale off of a freeze ball or ice clone just makes him to good. I don’t believe its able to be done offline though.
Scorpion can still be played the same way offline. F1 is still for the most part safe.
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The CPU could be really cheap with Rain at times.
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Maybe Tanya with her 42% no-effort weapon kombo...I don't think Scorpion though...I don't believe in "Cheapness", but that is the closest thing.
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Half the characters have combos that go over 40% in the game. And if you add air cancels to the mix it not hard to get 60-100% from anyone. But most people don’t play with them because it just makes the game more broken then it already is. It also changes the tier list.
Mka is all about turtleing, low pokes, then 50/50.An offence only get you killed in this one.
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Bassua255 posted:
Maybe Tanya with her 42% no-effort weapon kombo...I don't think Scorpion though...I don't believe in "Cheapness", but that is the closest thing.
Oh, I've seen that too. Another crazy one.
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What characters do I think are the cheapest?
Raiden
I know a lot of your might be surprised that I'm going to pick on the beloved Thunder God. I think that due to Raiden's special moves, combined with his Nan Chuan fighting style, he can be a very cheap character. How, you ask? All you have to do is keep teleporting. The opponent will keep jumping or running at you from the opposite direction, and you can just teleport behind him and give him a good pounding with the [Forward + X buttons] for PS2. I do not own MK:A for XBOX, so I would not have a clue what that move is for it. But keep doing that, and you will be the king of cheap. Your opponent won't know what to do, and you will just keep pounding him/her. Get them up against a wall, keep pounding them, and victory is assured.
Jarek
As many of you know, Jarek has a move called "Rhino Stomp", in which Jarek slams his body to ground, creating a small tremor and damaging the opponent. This move also allows for a combo after it. This move is very annoying. It can be launched in a quick amount of time, so you do not have time to jump to avoid it, as it is very hard to know when the move is coming. It can also be used when the opponent is blocking, as they are affected from underneath, rather than from the front, which, obviously means they can't block, which means they will be basically screwed unless they jump, which is very hard to time correctly. Obviously, you can just keep jumping this move. But then you're not blocking, are you? So funnily enough, Jarek just used his "Flying Legs" move, in which anchoring himself to the ground with his rope, Jarek impulses himself feet-first towards his opponent. Because you're jumping, and not blocking, you get taken down. Which leaves you open for yet another one of Jarek's Rhino Stomps.
Ermac
Ah, my beloved Ermac. Despite being one of my two favourite characters, Ermac is about as cheap as they come. When he has his axe drawn, Ermac has some very cheap moves. He has one specific move of which I'm going to focus on, of which you perform a mild series of punches to the opponent's face very quickly. This move is accessed by pressing the [Forward + Circle] button three times. Sure, this move seems harmless, but if Ermac does not stop doing this move, it can prove to be very annoying and very cheap. It continues to take off health, and since it is so fast, it's hard to block them once they're started. If you're out of breakers, you are sincerely screwed. Now, onward to Ermac's special moves. One move that I use a lot when playing with Ermac, is his "Mystic Float" move, in which Ermac uses his telekinesis to propel himself into the air for a few seconds.
This is a great move when playing someone like Taven or Jarek, because when they perform their cheap ground pound moves, you can simply levitate in the air to avoid it. But wait, there's more! Once in the air, and have maybe even avoided a ground pound, you can have one of two options: "Mystic Bomb", or "Dive Kick". Mystic Bomb, of course, is when Ermac slams his body on the ground, creating a small shock wave. This takes damage off the opponent, and while they stumble, you can shoot a "Hado-Energy" or something, which takes more health off, and they are too busy stumbling to block. "Dive Kick", obviously, is where Ermac dives forward with an aerial kick, smashing his opponent to the ground (if they are not blocking), which leaves the opponent open for an uppercut as they get up. So really, upon doing a Mystic Float, you are covered for whether the opponent blocks to avoid Dive Kick, or jumps, to avoid Mystic Bomb. This in tern, makes Ermac very cheap.
Sub-Zero
Ah, yes. Sub-Zero. Who could forget the ice warrior? All you have to do with this one is freeze your opponent and you have a free combo or uppercut. There is not really much I can rant about with this one, as all of you already know how cheap he is.
Taven
Taven, the new hero. The Edenian half-God sent to save the realms from Armageddon. His game-play is very cheap. You are really covered for every possible circumstance of what your opponent could do. His sword is probably the longest/largest sword in the whole game, which makes it perfect for avoiding opponent uppercuts, but still landing an uppercut of your own. One of my favourite things to do with Taven is to perform the "Godly Charge" move with your opponent straight away when the announcer says "Fight!". Godly Charge, of course, is when Taven charges forward, ramming his opponent with his shoulder in a show of fire. This always catches them off guard, and gives you a good start to the fight. Then there's the "Speed of Light and uppercut" move, in which Taven dashes instantly toward his opponent, connecting with three hits. This leaves them open for an uppercut afterwards. This move is good because even if the opponent sees "Speed of Light" move coming and blocks, they rarely see the Uppercut coming straight after. This means they will get screwed over. Whenever you're opponent's blocking, there's options too! There's the classic "Ground Pound" move, where Taven rises into the air and smashes his fist into the ground, causing a shock wave of fire. This, like Jarek's "Rhino Stomp" works even when they are blocking, which is a great convenience.
These are just a few descriptions on how cheap characters can be. I will not go on forever listing every character, but I hope this gives you an idea of the point I was trying to make in my first paragraph.
Now to the descision: Who's the cheapest?
And the winner is: TAVEN! Based on the reasons listed above, I do indeed think Taven is the cheapest character in MK:A. And if you got up to reading to here, thank you for your time.
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The wake up game in mka kills Raiden. For the teleport just hold up when you attack and you will hit him when he teleports. Only use his teleport when they shoot projectiles. His game play now revolves spacing and low pokes with his weapon. (Mid tier)
Nothing is free after jareks or ermacs ground pounds, they both have the same weapon.
No one uses ermacs levitate move because if I’m close I’ll just uppercut him. And if him half screen away just jump back. (Mid Tier)
Jareks ground pound comes out fast and is safe. It is also free after he uses a breaker. (Mid high tier)
Tavens ground pound is almost worthless. Takes to long to come out and way to much delay after it. He is only usable online because his 3 punch charge recover instantly letting him parry/block or attack with a low poke (unparryable) or 2,3. And if you get knocked down and the animation continues it a free grab. Its also unparryable. But it hits high so your opponent will just low poke you every time you use it. (low tier)
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