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greggNKC Posts: 1,449 Registered: Dec '05	Date Posted: 3/4 11:27am Subject: DC theory
	ok, I am so impressed with the lastest round of advice, (from a few posters anyway) I will contribute my new DC theory. The DCs are given to you, HANDED OUT, ASSIGNED, WHEN, IF you play too many low ranked players in a row, and you raise incorrectly too fast in rank. If they added that to the system it would prevent people from ranking too high by only playing noobs. I play all people who are on the board. I try to turn away 0-0 records.. I DONT WANT TO PLAY ANYONE with a 4-10 records (0R 8-56). I want to play people ranked above 1000, but after a while I will acccpet 950, if no one is on.. 99% OF PLAYERS WITH A RECORD OF 0-0 QUIT.. IT IS SO LAME!! it is these same poeple who wont go waway..whne I reject them..but after 4-5 times..OK OK OK thne they quit...WTF?? origin of my theory- The other day I am wanting to play BUT but I am only seeing players ranked at 950-1010, or less. SO I decided to play them..... btw- is NOT my fault they use crappy teams, and of course we were demolishing them all...and....they ALL quit. SO THEN.....and then and then and then.."Dude wheres my car? " hehhe anyway... after 3-4 of these wins..... ALONG COME MY DESGINATED DC LOSS as a penalty for demoolishing low ranked players, I start to notice pattern. SO BFORE THE DC LOSS-game our record if 75-31 @ 1215 rank. I MADE A VIDEO OF THIS...,,,,, anyway....in the 4th quarter the score was 52-20, THEN the game DC's...upon exit, the record says 75-32 Without even looking at the leaderboard, fast as heck, we played another game,, a pathetic game....it did not last a quarter befoe the douche quit.....THEN record the said 76-32 @ 1147 rank.. I have both back to back games on constant video, it lasts 35 minutes. I took a break,,,and was adding the video to my highlight reel.. As I was editing my video..... I had this idea. Maybe the "developers" added this feature, that if you play too many games against too many low ranked ( meaning "ranked too far below you") and if you slaughter them, game after game, then maybe you deserve a loss ..to keep you humble. SO maybe it is built in to the game that you cant play too many games against noobs...before you are checked up with a loss...maybe a good idea. Whne things dont make sense whne something is missing...I cogertate about it..... anyway... Maybe this DC theory explains why, several times now, I have NO DCS..then as I start kicking ass and I am go up in rank above 1200......BAM a DC loss.. SO ...after the Dc loss..it took me 3 games to get back above 1200..and now.... since then we are doing well... and we excpect another DC losss anytime now... BUT we will fight thorugh it...and keep rolling... We do our best to play only high ranked players..and it seems to be working. I KNOW I KNOW ..there are real technical, accidental line drop DCs losses too. blah blah .....I HAVE THEM TOO ...grrrrrrr.. I am only trying to explain the meaning of life, oops . I meant........explain the meaning of BLITZ........ but hey....is there a difference? PS stay away from my tightend.....AND MY DOGS woof woof ; ) -----signature----- BLITZ! BLITZ! BLITZ!
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essentre Posts: 863 Registered: Oct '08	Date Posted: 3/4 11:46am Subject: DC theory - Date Edited: 3/4 11:47am (2 edits total) Edited By: essentre
	Very well thought out and you make good points but in my opinion I really don't think that this is the case. Quite honestly I just think its something that has to do with a poorly constructed online system. I've played many games without any trouble even playing low rankings. I think there alot of things that have to do with the disconnects within peoples systems, harddrives and within the game itself. Many times it seems like it just gets ahead of itself. ie.. An animation playing while both players are quickly trying to select plays. It would also be foolish to include something in your game that would cause people to not want to play it or have bad things to say about it. The disconnects are terrible but at the end of the day I just think that they are part of a game that already has a bunch of loose ends and glitches. I also don't think we keep in mind enough that even the best of games have lag and timeout occasionally. The unfortunate thing is that when this happens with Blitz the system can't adjust so the game just drops. Thats why its my firm opinion that having as little memory being taken up BY the game, is the best way to prevent it. -----signature----- Overall Ranked: 331-30 • Current Rating: 1437 Current Team: Washington Sentinels • 6-6-6 Franchise: QB/LB • Rep 50
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BlitzVet_marman Posts: 214 Registered: Dec '07	Date Posted: 3/4 12:51pm Subject: DC theory
	dude even the gameplay is bad....THE GAME FRIGGIN LAGGS AND I HATE IT....i just stopped playin online...its ridiclous Im kinda waitin for Backbreaker...with all do respect i still play blitz and i love it, jus this is the worse online experience ever word -----signature----- "Im the Grimreaper motherF*****!!!" - Bruno Battaglia
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wcfcrazyperson23 Posts: 374 Registered: Dec '07	Date Posted: 3/4 2:18pm Subject: DC theory
	thats why the original is the shyt and will alwayz be the ahyt. no losses for disconnects. n yes i have losses on my record but that y i dont like blitz 2 that much.
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TheFlix Posts: 372 Registered: Feb '09	Date Posted: 3/4 2:55pm Subject: DC theory
	This is another great topic. My rating was in the 1300's before dropping again. The game prevents me from getting higher than the 1300's. The only way I can keep it up if I play ALL DAY. I checked the leaderboards and bam, my rating goes down then goes back up. When I play noobs, my rating doesn't go up much because of their record. Hopefully the disconnects don't keep me from being ranked again. Noobs= Equal wasted time
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501andStreetz Posts: 449 Registered: Oct '08	Date Posted: 3/4 2:59pm Subject: DC theory
	I don't know about y'all, but I get wins when people D/C me. -----signature----- Detroit Snowmen: 40-12 (online) NEW Detroit Snowmen: 152-48 (online) Team Captains: QB Gary Fox #0, WR/LB Amari Walker #17, FS DeMariuss Nickerson #20 Team Rivals: Detroit Devils, LA Riot, Washington Redhawks PSN: GMBRKR - Add me and play me!
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greggNKC Posts: 1,449 Registered: Dec '05	Date Posted: 3/4 5:04pm Subject: DC theory - Date Edited: 3/4 5:09pm (2 edits total) Edited By: greggNKC
	TheFlix posted: Noobs= Equal wasted time i wrote a loooooong winded novel in reposne maybe I will edit it down,,,and repost.. anyway... the bottom line?... YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! YAAH!! TO THE BLITZERS WHO RESPONDED.... YOU ARE REAL BLITZERS. btw after playing many games today.. with 3 DC set backs, I beileve the DCs make sense. TheFlix posted: Noobs= Equal wasted time TRUE FLIX...LIVE BY IT... il be bock, I am delighted with the great respone : ) -----signature----- BLITZ! BLITZ! BLITZ!
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greggNKC Posts: 1,449 Registered: Dec '05	Date Posted: 3/4 7:44pm Subject: DC theory
	for future readers- DC means discconeted in midgame during an internet match, sometime leading to a loss whne one is winning [quote=essentre] It would also be foolish to include something in your game that would cause people to not want to play it or have bad things to say about it. I wannna make sure we all know this time, I AM NOT YELLING AT THE DEVELOPERS, this time, ; ), I am saying maybe it is a good idea...or at to least understand DCs.. but YES ...they might put this feature in... I appreciate other real players input about this, if you really play online, then you have been fkd by a DC, IT NEVER MAKES SENSE AT THAT MOMENT, but maybe in hind sight maybe it does.. The disconnects are terrible but at the end of the day I just think that they are part of a game quote] that is what I said. but really, for me, DCs are not "terrible".. they are a nusance,,,a flea...a pimple on my tightend ; ) BUT ALSO.. they are NOT random.... THE DCs HAVE A PATTERN...maybe? it is juts wierd whne they come. AND I wrote a month ago..caling them "WELL TIMED DCs" so maybe..... thanks for the input... -----signature----- BLITZ! BLITZ! BLITZ!
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TheFlix Posts: 372 Registered: Feb '09	Date Posted: 3/5 4:45pm Subject: DC theory - Date Edited: 3/5 4:46pm (1 edits total) Edited By: TheFlix
	The one thing that I notice is when you know you won't get disconnected, before you are about to play someone. The screen shows the instructions for offense and defense for the controller. 95 percent of the time you can play someone with no disconnects when that happens.
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greggNKC Posts: 1,449 Registered: Dec '05	Date Posted: 3/5 6:54pm Subject: DC theory
	TheFlix posted: The one thing that I notice is when you know you won't get disconnected, before you are about to play someone. The screen shows the instructions for offense and defense for the controller. 95 percent of the time you can play someone with no disconnects when that happens. reeeeeaaaaalllyy? thank you , i had not even noticed,,,,butthis type of advice,as I have said before, many times, IS EXACTLY WHY I AM A MEMEBER OF THIS FORUM DEAL.... It is funny,,,,odd.. and I am smart enough to know I am dumb enough to know I dont see some stuff, I juts dont.....I NEED THE ASSISIATNCE... and I am happy to do my part too.. : ) I never even noticed..... but I will certtainly watch for it. Have you noticed that if you host, and you set parameters ( like DNF <15% ) to whom you want...it does nothing.... lol... I tried setting it to 15%DNF, less than 15% disccontect, and STILL anyone, and thier brother Vern, can STILL say PLAY ME ...ME !!! ME!!!,,, wonder if anyone has had that work... ANYWAY... thx Fliz for the great tip.....idea I still see/think/say, it is part of the rankings,,, I dont have a DC problem, ( except whne it happens) ( THEN I AM PISSED ) but I have few enough of them and the timing is perfect,, every time.. I never quit..I dont...EVER...and from my studies of the leader board ,,,,coorect DC rate is about 4-12% these people dont quit...they have DC losses.. : ( so fine..that is the bar... I dont worry about it,,and facts be known MOST of the DCs give me a win.......CUZ I AM WINNING!!!! after all But I will look for your screen shots, which I would have said were THE SAME EVERY TIME... good eye...Flix ill let you know.....and you let me know.. : ) -----signature----- BLITZ! BLITZ! BLITZ!
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terrellsubby Posts: 10,138 Registered: Jul '06	Date Posted: 3/6 6:08am Subject: DC theory
	Damn lol. I thought you meant DC like the comic company lol. Just reading the active topic list without seeing what board it belongs to. -----signature----- MKA TOURNEY SURVIVAL™-MONSTER Wins FATALITY!!! MONSTER_FANZ_CLUB™ PM me to join. Tiberius Ruled http://mortalkombat1388.proboards.com/index.cgi Join and I'll approve you. PM me here to tell me who you are MK RULZORZZZ!!!
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essentre Posts: 863 Registered: Oct '08	Date Posted: 3/6 6:44am Subject: DC theory
	Sometimes you can tell how a game is going to go by the load time into the team selection. If it takes what feels like more then normal time to load that, I usually back out -----signature----- Overall Ranked: 331-30 • Current Rating: 1437 Current Team: Washington Sentinels • 6-6-6 Franchise: QB/LB • Rep 50
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greggNKC Posts: 1,449 Registered: Dec '05	Date Posted: 3/7 9:51pm Subject: DC theory
	essentre posted: Sometimes you can tell how a game is going to go by the load time into the team selection. If it takes what feels like more then normal time to load that, I usually back out I thought once the stadium was selected you are in.. what do you mean back out? btw- This theory is correct.. I am NOT IN THE MOOD right now to explain.....DANG IT!!! but I may post my "testing results", and some tips on how to avoid EVER having a DC again.. -----signature----- BLITZ! BLITZ! BLITZ!
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Aximus Posts: 64 Registered: Feb '09	Date Posted: 3/9 12:45am Subject: DC theory
	You know, sometimes I think a dc happens when someone pulls the cord on their xbox instead of quiting. It seems a little convient I'm whooping someone then they pause and the game DCs. Also some guy said that he didn't quit once, the game DCed even though it said he quit. I don't know if he's lying or if it glitched. We should play each other and see the different effects of DCing.
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greggNKC Posts: 1,449 Registered: Dec '05	Date Posted: 3/9 3:44am Subject: DC theory
	OK, a theory is when "one states something, WILL HAPPEN" BEFORE it hapens". I stated that as rank approaches 1300...and maybe you have not beeen playing enough quality players, then the CPU decides you need A LOSS.... THIS IS WHEN you are ASSIGNED A DISCONNNECT LOSS. I STATED THAT, because I saw it happen ....several times. OK? After stating the theory, I WATCHED FOR IT.... It happened again, EXACTLY LIKE THAT, wanna see the video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDkB5dh4YCY I AM NO LONGER INFURIATED... ....I am not superDUPERmad about it any more, it is like the facts of life... It is like the facts of poker... IN POKER,,,,YOUR Ace-Ace WILL BE BEAT by a 4-7,,,when they get the straight... 5-8-9....it pisses me off..but it is fact, deal with it...One must be be a good enough player that you can overcome it. *******DISCLAIMEWR********** THE FOLLLOWING IS ONLY FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE A GOOD CONNECTION, AND USUALLY HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH DCS ( A DNF % OF LESS THAN 18% ) ( really 4-12 is the corrrect range ) IF YOU HAVE A DNF % OF HIGHER THAN 18% YOU HAVE A CONNECTION PROBLEM... THE ONLINE GAME WORKS FINE FOR ME,,,AND MOST PEOPLE. Pertaining to BLITZ... WHEN YOU APPROACH 1300 RANKING.. YOU MUST PLAY HIGHER RANKED PLAYERS..AND BEAT THEM... ONLY THEN WILL THE CPU ALLOW YOU INTO RARIFIED AIR...1300+ you will NEVER go over 1300 playing only low ranked players. if you only play noobs, as you approach 1300, you WILL be assigned a DC discconect,, IT WILL drop your rank by at least 50 points... THE MORAL- HAVE CONFIDENCE and a well trained team, THEN PLAY WITH NO FEAR IF YOU THINK YOU ARE GOOD.. PLAY THE BEST TO SEE HOW GOOD YOU REALLY ARE, IF YOU LOSE...YOU WILL DROP 50 POINTS IN RANKING... The only way to not drop 50 points is BEAT THE BEST. How do I know??..I HAVE SEVERAL PROFILES..I TEST!!! I TEST AND I REPORT HERE!!!!!! IT IS FUN!!! AND I MEAN IT!!!! RRRRAARARARRRRRRRRRR!!!!! If I am wrong....then prove it, do what I did ..and report back what happened to you. I had 2 profiles, BOTH at 1291... Last night I set out to WIN WITHOUT HOSTING, I waited for a GOOD player, whom I recognized, It took a while....but I found one rated 1250, or something ......and I entered his match..HE HOSTED. I won the game 52-30, it was brutal afterwards he told me it was the first time someone had beaten him in quite a while. After that win, the profile was ranked 1312, in the overall TOP 25. On the other profile......I played an 0-0 player....they picked the Aztecs...I ran in for the first TD,,it DCed.. I got a loss, and the profile dropped to 1232.. wanna see the video? HOW TO AVOID DISCCONECT LOSSSES DO NOT PLAY ANY PLAYER WITH A DNF % OVER 18%. Some people have a messed up connection, and YOU WILL PAY THE PRICE FOR THEIR PROBLEM. THese people KNOW they have a problem, and the KNOW they will infect you....STAYT AWAY, until they fix it. IF you play a player with an 0-0 record you DO NOT KNOW if they have the connection problem. DO NOT play a player with a record of 0-0, unless it is dead online, and you really wanna play, but it is like picking up a ho on the street, you are at risk. There are two way to get DCs... 1) Be rated about 1280-1290 and keep playing noobs, and you will be assigned a DC...dropping your rating. 2) You play someone with a connection issue, you will get a DC loss. 3) I find, usually if some one pull the cord and it Dcs I get the win...IF I am not approaching rarified air of 1300... I could be wrong..I may not have a clue, but I have played about 300 online games on 4 profiles, and this is what I have seen....... If I am wrong....then prove it, do what I did ..and report back what happened to you. Once I hit 1312 on the one profile I switched off, and have been playing the other... trying to get it up too, but the DC set backs and testing this theory take time.......and... I can not play too many REAL GAMES, against good players, in a row...it is grueling..... I play a couple, then take a break...noobs are easy, but real games are grueling...cuz losing is not an option. WIN AT ALL COST!!!!! BLITZ ! BLITZ ! BLITZ ! -----signature----- BLITZ! BLITZ! BLITZ!
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greggNKC Posts: 1,449 Registered: Dec '05	Date Posted: 3/9 5:58pm Subject: DC theory
	not a peep?...not a word? oh well.. anyway..I need to add this note I am dropping the playable maximum DNF% DOWN TO 12%. If you have a DNF% HIGHER....fa-get-aaaaBOUTit...ok pauly? I look at the good players, and they dont quit, most people have a DNF%,,BUT GOOD PLAYERS KEEP IT BELOW 12. They do that by being smart, and not playing the "infected"..it keeps the DNF% low. ALSO I WILL ADD THIS... If you respect the game, then please unplug the other things connected to the interent... PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!! IT IS A WELL MADE GAME, ONLINE WORKSGOOD,,,UNLESS GOOFS WANNA BOG IT DOWN ONLINE,,,AND THEN THEY WHINE IT IS CHOPPY. MOST ONLINE GAMES I PLAY, ARE AS SMOOTH AS CAMPAIGN..ONLY WHEN A DOUCHEBAG INSISTS ON RECEIVEING FAXES,,OR OTHER IGNORRNT CRAP, DOES IT AFFETCT GAME PLAY..CATCH A CLUE...OR BUY ONE!! KEEP THE LINE CLEAR..AND HAVE A SMOOTH GAME,,, if you keep it clogged, and YOU cause lagging..IT IS YOU, and I know it is you,,and IT PISSES ME OFF!!!, which is good..cuz I play better pissed off ; ) so do whatever BS you want,,,,it dont maaata.... -----signature----- BLITZ! BLITZ! BLITZ!
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