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MMERC posted:
wcfcrazyperson23 posted:
and for all the nay sayers i will be copying a team back in div3 shortly i will be posting results of it later.
Sorry depredeter I meant to ask wolfcrazy23 for a reply on the QB run training thread. You list many great points above. As for Wolfcrazy23 results from a copied team I was under the impession it always led to 8-8-8. So if not what are the other possible outcomes?BTW I don't want anyone here to feel like I'm hating on them. I love this game and ALL of it's flaws, cheats, and gliches. I know we all can't wait to find them all when the new sht comes out.
Very well spoken.
You are reading this correctly: there is no hating here; just a sharing of opinions.
I love good convo about something I love like frickin BTL! LOL
Anyways, you can wind up with different stats, just like when you chase the 7-7-7.
The only difference is, if you are actually trying to play the game, you should not wind up with anything less than a 7 in any of your stats.
At least, I don't think you can.
I honestly do not want to invest the time to test that theory out!! LMAO 
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again stats r based on the stats of ur players. not gameplay or anything else but the grades of the players. if u had to pick a TE that has only been trained in arm stuff and is an A-. cuz that is what they will end up with or pick a TE that has the arm stuff and speed, agility, hands, and resist injury. i am sry i am taking the one that is BEEFED up, no offense.
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wcfcrazyperson23 posted:
again stats r based on the stats of ur players. not gameplay or anything else but the grades of the players. if u had to pick a TE that has only been trained in arm stuff and is an A-. cuz that is what they will end up with or pick a TE that has the arm stuff and speed, agility, hands, and resist injury. i am sry i am taking the one that is BEEFED up, no offense.
You know what...that is entirely true, because when I was chasing my 7-7-7, I didn't do any of the challenges whatsoever.
You bring to mind another idea that I may think about trying.
I am thinking that perhaps, a way to get that illusive 7-7-7 easier would be to put the most work into those lower graded players first (INITIALLY ONLY).
And then, with the deep bomb trick and making enough money, you can elevate the stats of higher level players with steroids and trainings, during that same time frame.
The steroid impression does not count towards the stats, but if someone is faster, then as they progress, they do build up speed in their stats regardless.
I witnessed this before when I was testing out the Ultranol trick, and afterwards I did post to the forum that my team stats were higher at the stage of the game that I was at, versus where I would have been otherwise and or in the past.
Hmmmmm......you gotta' admit....food for thought. 
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but the juice is a waste of money unless buying them in week 10 or 11 of division 1. cuz they wear off in the 3rd week anyway.
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wcfcrazyperson23 posted:
but the juice is a waste of money unless buying them in week 10 or 11 of division 1. cuz they wear off in the 3rd week anyway.
Yes, that is normally correct if you purchase it according to your training cycle.
I purchase off training cycle (2nd week), so it carries from one cycle into the next, which leaves you advancing past the initial cycle with slightly higher stats.
I can't recall this exactly detail for detail, so the following is a very loose recollection.
I took that one LB that always hovers in the D range the longest (i think LB1), and put him on utranol.
I do suspect that this could work with a lesser steroid all the same, but I digress.
Anyway, his stats with trainings were like speed 3 and arm strength 2 or 3.
I recorded where the line was supposed to land according to that, and then added ultranol.
With the Ultranol, it was +10 or some ridiculous number like that on speed and the same for arm strength i think.
At the end of his cycle, the line was farther up than where it should have been.
To me it looked like it gave him the extra points to even out at +5, instead of the 3 or 2 that he was supposed to get.
So after fewer cycles than normal and early in div2, he was a B+ and well on his way to becoming at least an A.
That particular player is tough for me tho, as he fluctuates the most for me, for some reason.
I always have trouble on 7-7-7 with my defense, because they take phantom hits I never see in the damn 3rd and 4th quarters!
And you know when that happens you have to start over because you won't get the 7-7-7.
Again, as I don't have the proof of my save game to show, this is a loose recollection (so I have to say "in my opinion").
I may do it again and video tape it...maybe upload it or something, i dunno.
That is one of the best things I love about greggNKC when he joins in on a convo.
He always provides proof of what does in the game, and sometimes with great in-game and colorful commentary! LOL
Friggin Blitz, who wooda' though we'd be this deep in convo over a game! LOL
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I_am_Mike_mexico posted:
Date Posted: 2/18 1:55pm
Subject: RE: MY GUIDE TO 7-7-7
Date Edited: 2/18 2:52pm (1 edits total) Edited By: blitzuser
Its a copy and paste cheat and I hate people who think there team is better beacause they can do 2 season in a game thats only aloud to have one. Its a hack cheat glitch and absolute (modedit: profanity).
I_am_Mike_mexico, As someone I consider to be a knowledgeable Blitz forum-ite and a valuable resource, I am surprised at you.
Not that you care what I think, but hear me out.
You seem to be a pretty open minded person, judging from the majority of your posts on the Blitz boards.
Heck, I even appreciate a lot of the advice you have given in regards to the game play.
I especially like your guide to 7-7-7.
I know that you don't appreciate the whole 8-8-8 argument, but it is in the game, thus a part of it.
I am not sure if you realize it or not, but just because you copy a 7-7-7 team doesn't mean you will get the 8-8-8 team.
I know many people people who wound up with less than an 8-8-8 at the end of the season.
I hope that some of them speak up on this fact. lol
To be perfectly honest with you, I don't see a whole lot of difference in the performance of a 7-7-7 team versus an 8-8-8 team.
Yes, I expect a few responses stating otherwise, but I am just saying that I personally don't see a whole lot of difference between the two.
I think the 8-8-8 is cool because it shows a different graphic for the bars that is an oddity.
If it's a cheat, then you have to realize that we all cheat in one way or another...including yourself.
Want proof, see below.
I recall seeing a post where you talk about throwing a deep bomb and then farm clash icons.
Or do you think it's fair to throw a deep bomb then farm clash icons while the computer AI decides to run the other way.
We all know a human opponent would never do that.
That is a glitch and a cheat, by any other name.
If you take away those deep bombs, I'm sure your clash score would look very different at the end of the game.
As opposed to a 100k+ for just clash/combos, it would probably look more reasonable, and thus not so special or spectacular.
I am not defending anyone, but I am all for someone finding out something new about a game I love to play.
Going for the 8-8-8 is almost exactly like going for the 7-7-7...well, minus the double cheat of extra trainings.
LOL
Errr, what was my point again?? LOL
You'll probably still rip into me, but...
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Sportsmanship in blitz? thats the oddity
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wcfcrazyperson23 posted:
Sportsmanship in blitz? thats the oddity
I said I STILL DO IT.
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I dissagree. What IKMM did w/running the other way b4 catching the bomb pass was not a cheat! He is playing the game as it was made the way the makers intended. A glitch maybe, more of a good tip than any thing else. The 8-8-8 teams are interesting and also a good tip. But I'd say it's a cheat and I also think you should let people know about that when you give advice. I am wondering why you didn't respond to me on the QB run traing tread(Sir Bevis). If you missed it please read and repond.
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MMERC posted:
I dissagree. What IKMM did w/running the other way b4 catching the bomb pass was not a cheat! He is playing the game as it was made the way the makers intended. A glitch maybe, more of a good tip than any thing else. The 8-8-8 teams are interesting and also a good tip. But I'd say it's a cheat and I also think you should let people know about that when you give advice. I am wondering why you didn't respond to me on the QB run traing tread(Sir Bevis). If you missed it please read and repond.
good point
i thought the 7-7-7 was the best did i start playing online. and i have sayd this more that once on here the 8-8-8 is the better team. more complete and i would take that team over a 7-7-7 any day of the week 2x on sunday.
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8-8-8 is the same......4-4-4 team is the same as a 7-7-7 if you good you can beat any kind of team 8-8-8 is just for looks......
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8-8-8 is the same......4-4-4 team is the same as a 7-7-7 if you good you can beat any kind of team 8-8-8 is just for looks......
i agree with that statement. skill level of play is not based on the stats of the team. they r based on the skills of the controlled.
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I_am_Mike_mexico posted:
8-8-8 is the same......4-4-4 team is the same as a 7-7-7 if you good you can beat any kind of team 8-8-8 is just for looks......
i agree with that statement. skill level of play is not based on the stats of the team. they r based on the skills of the controlled.
So you just admitted that 8-8-8 is not the best.
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I_am_Mike_mexico posted:
wcfcrazyperson23 posted:
I_am_Mike_mexico posted:
8-8-8 is the same......4-4-4 team is the same as a 7-7-7 if you good you can beat any kind of team 8-8-8 is just for looks......
i agree with that statement. skill level of play is not based on the stats of the team. they r based on the skills of the controlled.
So you just admitted that 8-8-8 is not the best.
no i admitted that if you can play then you can play. but the 8-8-8 team is a dominant team that no one can disprove my theory of play with them. yes they are beatable. every team is beatable. but the record speaks for itself. i think it is like 191-5 something like that. and 5 overall on the leaderboards have beaten people higher that me but they pull the plug so the win didnt count. so you take it for what is it worth or take it for whatever you want. I REALLY DONT CARE!!!! HAHAHAHA!!!!!
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wcfcrazyperson23 posted:
I_am_Mike_mexico posted:
wcfcrazyperson23 posted:
[quote=I_am_Mike_mexico]8-8-8 is the same......4-4-4 team is the same as a 7-7-7 if you good you can beat any kind of team 8-8-8 is just for looks......
i agree with that statement. skill level of play is not based on the stats of the team. they r based on the skills of the controlled.
So you just admitted that 8-8-8 is not the best.
no i admitted that if you can play then you can play. but the 8-8-8 team is a dominant team that no one can disprove my theory of play with them. yes they are beatable. every team is beatable. but the record speaks for itself. i think it is like 191-5 something like that. and 5 overall on the leaderboards have beaten people higher that me but they pull the plug so the win didnt count. so you take it for what is it worth or take it for whatever you want. I REALLY DONT CARE!!!! HAHAHAHA!!!!![/quote]
So what you doing is taking the NE Pats in Madden and beating people it proves my theory that you have to have a 8-8-8 to win.
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